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Brillopad 20-06-2017 07:01 PM

JK Rowling trying to blame Farage for radicalising right-wing extremists.
 
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...wlings-radica/

What a load of bu****it. I'd say it has far more to do with them reacting to Muslim extremism. Morons trying to fight fire with fire.

Trying to ignore the obvious to try to make a cheap political point is weak and more in keeping with idiots such as Ms Allen. Mistakenly I thought Rowling was better than that.

Kizzy 20-06-2017 07:05 PM

Yep, she's bang on.. him and hopkins have a lot to answer for.

Brillopad 20-06-2017 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9374416)
Yep, she's bang on.. him and hopkins have a lot to answer for.

Corbyn is more extreme than Farage and a lot less honest. An extreme is an extreme, left or right, and if you get down and dirty with the worst of them, whether through actions or support, you deserve the flack coming your way.

Crimson Dynamo 20-06-2017 07:38 PM

this dreadful woman is so bored now her star had faded all she can do is a lilly allen lite act?

her nasty prejudice is a sight to see

Nigel destroyed her last night on LBC :joker:

Withano 20-06-2017 07:50 PM

Obviously people arent born with an irrational desire to kill the innocent. Theyre brainwashed by people or organisations that they respect. I dont think Rowling can blame individuals, but yes in essense she is correct.

If ISIS is responsible for Islamic terrorists, who or what is responsible for right wing terrorism. Could be Farage, Hopkins, or the Daily Mail, could be the EDL or Britain Frist, could also be a close family member, friend or colleague.

Not sure if we'll ever know for sure, but the man, like all terrorists, is thick, and believed in the hatred that surrounded him. People or organisations that encourage hatred of any group need to be banned, or this will continue. Doesnt matter where they are or who they are, and I dont think Rowling naming individuals is helpful.. but it promoted conversation on the topic, which is a bloody good start.

bots 20-06-2017 07:57 PM

I think Rowling has crossed the line there. Nigel is a lot of things but he is not responsible in any way shape or form for that chaps actions yesterday. He has never suggested any form of violence toward muslims or any immigrants at any time. Really not good

Wizard. 20-06-2017 07:58 PM

There's no evidence for it so she should pipe down.

Tom4784 20-06-2017 08:00 PM

She has a point, Hopkins and Farage have both profited from promoting the whole 'us and them' angle to simpletons and I definitely believe their actions can and will inspire violence. They promote the idea of fighting fire with fire, extremism with extremism and the easily led will buy into it.

Crimson Dynamo 20-06-2017 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9374510)
She has a point, Hopkins and Farage have both profited from promoting the whole 'us and them' angle to simpletons and I definitely believe their actions can and will inspire violence. They promote the idea of fighting fire with fire, extremism with extremism and the easily led will buy into it.

angle to simpletons

your disgusting disdain to anyone who does not share your pov is a stain on this forum

Kazanne 20-06-2017 08:02 PM

Why do people always want to blame anyone but the people who do these things,it's madness:shrug:

Tom4784 20-06-2017 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9374514)
angle to simpletons

your disgusting disdain to anyone who does not share your pov is a stain on this forum

That's nice, dear.

Withano 20-06-2017 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9374516)
Why do people always want to blame anyone but the people who do these things,it's madness:shrug:

Would you not hold ISIS at least partially responsible for an Islamic terrorist attack? I think thats the (accurate) parallel she was trying to draw.

Crimson Dynamo 20-06-2017 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9374518)
That's nice, dear.

enjoy your imaginary infraction. reported for BAITING to member



pathetic

:bored:

Tom4784 20-06-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9374545)
enjoy your imaginary infraction. reported for BAITING to member



pathetic

:bored:

Okay.

Brillopad 20-06-2017 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9374510)
She has a point, Hopkins and Farage have both profited from promoting the whole 'us and them' angle to simpletons and I definitely believe their actions can and will inspire violence. They promote the idea of fighting fire with fire, extremism with extremism and the easily led will buy into it.

Get real, Muslim extremists are the ones promoting violence through example, after example, after example.....

The real simpletons are the ones that scream 'it isn't their fault they are just angry at the world - it the West's fault for giving them better lives and for daring to have some expectations that they assimilate into society'. Yeah, yeah....

Crimson Dynamo 20-06-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9374546)
Okay.

okay i hope (not you) but other members see it for what it is........................

Tom4784 20-06-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9374555)
Get real, Muslim extremists are the ones promoting violence through example, after example, after example.....

The real simpletons are the ones that scream 'it isn't their fault they are just angry at the world - it the West's fault for giving them better lives and for daring to have some expectations that they assimilate into society'. Yeah, yeah....

Except no one is saying that? Don't attribute quotes and attitudes to people that you have dreamt up and decided is fact.

Make arguments against opinions that actually exist, not ones you've dreamt up.

Tom4784 20-06-2017 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9374560)
okay i hope (not you) but other members see it for what it is........................

Yeah.

Brillopad 20-06-2017 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9374562)
Except no one is saying that? Don't attribute quotes and attitudes to people that you have dreamt up and decided is fact.

Make arguments against opinions that actually exist, not ones you've dreamt up.

No dreaming going on here.

Tom4784 20-06-2017 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9374568)
No dreaming going on here.

Well yes, you certainly are since you are trying to make out that me or other people on this website have said anything similar to this 'it isn't their fault they are just angry at the world - it the West's fault for giving them better lives and for daring to have some expectations that they assimilate into society'.

This just isn't true, I've not seen anyone on this website hold an opinion similar to this one. Once again, you are arguing with what you WANT people to have said instead of arguing against what they ACTUALLY said.

Brillopad 20-06-2017 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9374574)
Well yes, you certainly are since you are trying to make out that me or other people on this website have said anything similar to this 'it isn't their fault they are just angry at the world - it the West's fault for giving them better lives and for daring to have some expectations that they assimilate into society'.

This just isn't true, I've not seen anyone on this website hold an opinion similar to this one. Once again, you are arguing with what you WANT people to have said instead of arguing against what they ACTUALLY said.

Those exact words may not have been used but the meaning was obvious. Many of the left try to blame the West for the actions of Islamic extremists instead of the actual extremists for their terrorist acts - when anyone with a brain knows what a load of boohoolocks that is - the only ones to blame are them.

Kazanne 20-06-2017 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9374560)
okay i hope (not you) but other members see it for what it is........................

Yes, I agree,it causes unnecessary friction.

bots 20-06-2017 09:26 PM

i rest my case

Kizzy 20-06-2017 09:32 PM

Let's examine a recent quote from hopkins in yesterdays mail

'Way up on the moral high ground, Brendan Cox, high priest of the hopers'

This is a man whos wife was gunned down in broad daylight by a right wing terrorist extremist... What possible reason could there be for her mockery on the 1st anniversary of his wifes death?
It is significant because he is the antithesis of her.

This is why along with her 'final solution' and 'western men rise up' comments what she says and who gives her a platform is so instrumental in incitement and public dischord.
I'm glad high profile people are sharing these views with their 1000s of followers it may awaken more to what is going on.

I have said before I feel hopkins role was to sway public opinion from any sympathy with refugees she was highly successful there, as was farage in his efforts scaremongering in relation to immigrants during the brexit campaign.

They were in my opinion state sponsored inciters of racial hatred.

King Gizzard 20-06-2017 09:44 PM

I'm not her biggest fan when it comes to what she says away from the HO franchise but she's definitely got a point here.


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