[Brillopad]

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...wlings-radica/

What a load of bu****it. I'd say it has far more to do with them reacting to Muslim extremism. Morons trying to fight fire with fire.

Trying to ignore the obvious to try to make a cheap political point is weak and more in keeping with idiots such as Ms Allen. Mistakenly I thought Rowling was better than that.

[Kizzy]

Yep, she's bang on.. him and hopkins have a lot to answer for.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yep, she's bang on.. him and hopkins have a lot to answer for.

Corbyn is more extreme than Farage and a lot less honest. An extreme is an extreme, left or right, and if you get down and dirty with the worst of them, whether through actions or support, you deserve the flack coming your way.

[LeatherTrumpet]

this dreadful woman is so bored now her star had faded all she can do is a lilly allen lite act?

her nasty prejudice is a sight to see

Nigel destroyed her last night on LBC

[Withano]

Obviously people arent born with an irrational desire to kill the innocent. Theyre brainwashed by people or organisations that they respect. I dont think Rowling can blame individuals, but yes in essense she is correct.

If ISIS is responsible for Islamic terrorists, who or what is responsible for right wing terrorism. Could be Farage, Hopkins, or the Daily Mail, could be the EDL or Britain Frist, could also be a close family member, friend or colleague.

Not sure if we'll ever know for sure, but the man, like all terrorists, is thick, and believed in the hatred that surrounded him. People or organisations that encourage hatred of any group need to be banned, or this will continue. Doesnt matter where they are or who they are, and I dont think Rowling naming individuals is helpful.. but it promoted conversation on the topic, which is a bloody good start.

[bitontheslide]

I think Rowling has crossed the line there. Nigel is a lot of things but he is not responsible in any way shape or form for that chaps actions yesterday. He has never suggested any form of violence toward muslims or any immigrants at any time. Really not good

[Wizard.]

There's no evidence for it so she should pipe down.

[Tom4784]

She has a point, Hopkins and Farage have both profited from promoting the whole 'us and them' angle to simpletons and I definitely believe their actions can and will inspire violence. They promote the idea of fighting fire with fire, extremism with extremism and the easily led will buy into it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

She has a point, Hopkins and Farage have both profited from promoting the whole 'us and them' angle to simpletons and I definitely believe their actions can and will inspire violence. They promote the idea of fighting fire with fire, extremism with extremism and the easily led will buy into it.

angle to simpletons

your disgusting disdain to anyone who does not share your pov is a stain on this forum

[Kazanne]

Why do people always want to blame anyone but the people who do these things,it's madness

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

angle to simpletons

your disgusting disdain to anyone who does not share your pov is a stain on this forum

That's nice, dear.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Why do people always want to blame anyone but the people who do these things,it's madness

Would you not hold ISIS at least partially responsible for an Islamic terrorist attack? I think thats the (accurate) parallel she was trying to draw.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's nice, dear.

enjoy your imaginary infraction. reported for BAITING to member



pathetic

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

enjoy your imaginary infraction. reported for BAITING to member



pathetic

Okay.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

She has a point, Hopkins and Farage have both profited from promoting the whole 'us and them' angle to simpletons and I definitely believe their actions can and will inspire violence. They promote the idea of fighting fire with fire, extremism with extremism and the easily led will buy into it.

Get real, Muslim extremists are the ones promoting violence through example, after example, after example.....

The real simpletons are the ones that scream 'it isn't their fault they are just angry at the world - it the West's fault for giving them better lives and for daring to have some expectations that they assimilate into society'. Yeah, yeah....

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Okay.

okay i hope (not you) but other members see it for what it is........................

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Get real, Muslim extremists are the ones promoting violence through example, after example, after example.....

The real simpletons are the ones that scream 'it isn't their fault they are just angry at the world - it the West's fault for giving them better lives and for daring to have some expectations that they assimilate into society'. Yeah, yeah....

Except no one is saying that? Don't attribute quotes and attitudes to people that you have dreamt up and decided is fact.

Make arguments against opinions that actually exist, not ones you've dreamt up.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

okay i hope (not you) but other members see it for what it is........................

Yeah.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except no one is saying that? Don't attribute quotes and attitudes to people that you have dreamt up and decided is fact.

Make arguments against opinions that actually exist, not ones you've dreamt up.

No dreaming going on here.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No dreaming going on here.

Well yes, you certainly are since you are trying to make out that me or other people on this website have said anything similar to this 'it isn't their fault they are just angry at the world - it the West's fault for giving them better lives and for daring to have some expectations that they assimilate into society'.

This just isn't true, I've not seen anyone on this website hold an opinion similar to this one. Once again, you are arguing with what you WANT people to have said instead of arguing against what they ACTUALLY said.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well yes, you certainly are since you are trying to make out that me or other people on this website have said anything similar to this 'it isn't their fault they are just angry at the world - it the West's fault for giving them better lives and for daring to have some expectations that they assimilate into society'.

This just isn't true, I've not seen anyone on this website hold an opinion similar to this one. Once again, you are arguing with what you WANT people to have said instead of arguing against what they ACTUALLY said.

Those exact words may not have been used but the meaning was obvious. Many of the left try to blame the West for the actions of Islamic extremists instead of the actual extremists for their terrorist acts - when anyone with a brain knows what a load of boohoolocks that is - the only ones to blame are them.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

okay i hope (not you) but other members see it for what it is........................

Yes, I agree,it causes unnecessary friction.

[bitontheslide]

i rest my case

[Kizzy]

Let's examine a recent quote from hopkins in yesterdays mail

'Way up on the moral high ground, Brendan Cox, high priest of the hopers'

This is a man whos wife was gunned down in broad daylight by a right wing terrorist extremist... What possible reason could there be for her mockery on the 1st anniversary of his wifes death?
It is significant because he is the antithesis of her.

This is why along with her 'final solution' and 'western men rise up' comments what she says and who gives her a platform is so instrumental in incitement and public dischord.
I'm glad high profile people are sharing these views with their 1000s of followers it may awaken more to what is going on.

I have said before I feel hopkins role was to sway public opinion from any sympathy with refugees she was highly successful there, as was farage in his efforts scaremongering in relation to immigrants during the brexit campaign.

They were in my opinion state sponsored inciters of racial hatred.

[King Gizzard]

I'm not her biggest fan when it comes to what she says away from the HO franchise but she's definitely got a point here.