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waterhog 12-10-2017 09:36 AM

obesity soloution ? all ideas welcome
 
junk poetry to solve tenfold rise in obesity - metro news 12.10.17

 

its on the rise

just like the rate on your lease

do you want a magical exercise

highgate holds solution to obese.

it was pre-planned

around your waste is my vision

up highgate hill is no hand

europes no6 is going to cut with a incision.

to you all i did spoon

i got all the nasty's as evidence

very sad to see the balloon

my conscience to share with lucky residence.

now your in-drawn

i will boil your fat on my stove

thinking about me from dusk till dawn

just like the sadness from the grove.

get round to the square

i no your growing fond

outside the toilets and weight loss share

enjoy some junk on the pond.

to the church please travel

st joseph's is the call

just think of the fat on that gravel

i own the board as its my wall.

excellent is the beginning

twice a week you have to repeat

you have made a start with thinning

its all done through junk poetry that's calorie sweet.

 

https://www.metro.news/junk-food-bla...ildren/777003/

thesheriff443 12-10-2017 09:59 AM

Eating fast eating cheap
On the scales an enormous heap

DemolitionRed 12-10-2017 03:14 PM

When I first visited America as a teenager, I was shocked by how big people were compared to Brits. In more recent visits I'm shocked at their super-size. British people have probably caught up with how I first saw a lot of American people and if we keep on eating fast food, sugar-laden drinks, and American type diets, ten years from now its not going to be uncommon to see super-sized people over here.

Children, even babies are being diagnosed with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Its now the norm to see podgy six-year-olds.

Before I get shouted down, I know there are illnesses and medication that can pile on the pounds. My niece is on female hormones because she has no pituitary gland and the side effects of that is obesity. She's bullied at school because of her weight gain which is not her fault but then its not the fault of a podgy child who has no health condition either.

I think its something we need to openly talk about because obesity really is becoming an epidemic.

Oliver_W 12-10-2017 03:31 PM

My solution? For every pound one is overweight, a pound is deducted from benefits.

Crimson Dynamo 12-10-2017 04:33 PM

if takeaways were banned it would be solved

just look at the amount of takeaways people eat on tibb

its disgusting

DemolitionRed 12-10-2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9655593)
My solution? For every pound one is overweight, a pound is deducted from benefits.

And what about ill people on benefits? Are you saying the only people who are obese are on benefits?

Vicky. 12-10-2017 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9655593)
My solution? For every pound one is overweight, a pound is deducted from benefits.

Because there are no overweight people in work? :laugh:

Anyway, less money is likely to make people fatter tbh. Healthy food tends to be much more expensive. So chopping away at peoples income will just make them put more weight on

Crimson Dynamo 12-10-2017 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9655733)
Because there are no overweight people in work? :laugh:

Anyway, less money is likely to make people fatter tbh. Healthy food tends to be much more expensive. So chopping away at peoples income will just make them put more weight on

i doubt very much that the cost of "healthy food" is a main driver to convenience food

Niamh. 12-10-2017 06:02 PM

What's worrying is the increase of over weight children. Better education maybe for cooking simple but healthy meals might help although I'm not sure how that could be done plus maybe a bit more physical activities in school?

user104658 12-10-2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9655734)
i doubt very much that the cost of "healthy food" is a main driver to convenience food

The main driver to convenience food is high stress / high pressure lifestyles tbh. By the time it gets to dinner time, people can't be bothered putting together a proper meal, so it's oven-crap or takeaways. Of course, also, we're a generation or two down the line from the start of this - so a lot of people simply never learn how to cook real food in the first place, as they didn't grow up with it.

user104658 12-10-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9655593)
My solution? For every pound one is overweight, a pound is deducted from benefits.

:facepalm: Far more fatties sat in office chairs than down the jobcentre I'm afraid.

Which is another part of the problem, really; far more people have physically-inactive "screen jobs" than in the past.

waterhog 12-10-2017 10:17 PM

great selections of comments and points and I have to agree - it is not only the poor who are big !

I will read back over the comments as it is so shocking how this nation is going but dinner just arrived - large donner kebab double chips onion rings and 2 litter of coke.

DemolitionRed 13-10-2017 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9655915)
:facepalm: Far more fatties sat in office chairs than down the jobcentre I'm afraid.

Which is another part of the problem, really; far more people have physically-inactive "screen jobs" than in the past.

I agree with this ^

Another problem is the minimum wage. Most people can't survive on a thirty-hour contract for only £7.50 an hour so supplement that job with extra work. Its a researched fact that people who work 60 hours a week will snack a lot more and often on the wrong foods. That's okay if its a physical job but what if its not physical?

DemolitionRed 13-10-2017 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by waterhog (Post 9655940)
great selections of comments and points and I have to agree - it is not only the poor who are big !

I will read back over the comments as it is so shocking how this nation is going but dinner just arrived - large donner kebab double chips onion rings and 2 litter of coke.

My senior is on a very healthy salary and she's a very large woman but then she spends all day number crunching and is under a lot of pressure to her chief.

I believe stress is a big precursor for people putting on weight.

Vicky. 13-10-2017 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9655734)
i doubt very much that the cost of "healthy food" is a main driver to convenience food

Really? The differences in prices are pretty insane and I can well see people with not much money chosing a large bag of chicken nuggets (which could do a few meals) for a quid over a couple of fresh breasts for a fiver tbh D:

When we have a particularly bad month, its actually quite tempting to buy a bunch of crap as you can fill the cupboards for much less with crap. Have done that sometimes too, but usually the thought of surviving on processed crap is enough to send us begging to family and friends for cash for 'proper' shopping. But if we didn't have people we could lend off, we would have not much choice :S

Northern Monkey 13-10-2017 10:55 AM

Download My Fitness Pal,Eat less and walk more.

Northern Monkey 13-10-2017 11:01 AM

Also get a sports bottle and fill it with water.Take it with you all day and drink it.Have a Tea or coffee now and then when you need a boost.Water helps you feel full if you drink plenty.
This stuff isn’t complicated.I quite regularly bulk up and cut down.Just gotta know how much you’re putting in your body.

Kizzy 13-10-2017 11:05 AM

I would say it isn't even a case of healthy v unhealthy even people that are attempting to eat healthily are duped into consuming large amounts of sugar just due to the fact the labeling can claim the product is 'low fat' it's totally counterproductive and dangerous.

Everything has sugar in it, even bread it has a hundred different names sucrose, maltose, rice syrup, high fructose corn syrup... it's all sugar.

No wonder kids are turning their noses up at veg, their taste buds are tuned into all things sweet, it is literally impossible to avoid it unless you scrutinise everything or cut out ALL processed food.

The next biggest problem is hydrogenated fat, (trans fats)this is in anything from a take away, margerine, cakes, biscuits and doughnuts, avoid them on the daily and you've cracked it. Cut down on shop bought ones or make your own if you want to control what goes in your goodies.

All food is is common sense if you take in more calories ( unit of energy) than you expend you put on weight. If you take in empty calories with no nutritional value ( cake, pastry, biscuit) you have no energy, meaning you move less (after the initial 5 min sugar rush) and you put on weight.

The problem is sugar is very addictive, I really struggle with it and have found myself on more than one occasion pre diabetic....it's easier quitting cigs or booze! Seriously :/

Niamh. 13-10-2017 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9656150)
I would say it isn't even a case of healthy v unhealthy even people that are attempting to eat healthily are duped into consuming large amounts of sugar just due to the fact the labeling can claim the product is 'low fat' it's totally counterproductive and dangerous.

Everything has sugar in it, even bread it has a hundred different names sucrose, maltose, rice syrup, high fructose corn syrup... it's all sugar.

No wonder kids are turning their noses up at veg, their taste buds are tuned into all things sweet, it is literally impossible to avoid it unless you scrutinise everything or cut out ALL processed food.

The next biggest problem is hydrogenated fat, (trans fats)this is in anything from a take away, margerine, cakes, biscuits and doughnuts, avoid them on the daily and you've cracked it. Cut down on shop bought ones or make your own if you want to control what goes in your goodies.

All food is is common sense if you take in more calories ( unit of energy) than you expend you put on weight. If you take in empty calories with no nutritional value ( cake, pastry, biscuit) you have no energy, meaning you move less (after the initial 5 min sugar rush) and you put on weight.

The problem is sugar is very addictive, I really struggle with it and have found myself on more than one occasion pre diabetic....it's easier quitting cigs or booze! Seriously :/

Naaaaaah

Northern Monkey 13-10-2017 12:42 PM

After you’ve weighed out portions for a while it becomes second nature to know roughly how many cals are in things.You can stop weighing and guess more or less how much you’re consuming.If you’re being mindful of portion sizes you’re probably on the right track.Combine that with getting out and walking or training if you’re that way inclined and you’re onto a winner.

DemolitionRed 13-10-2017 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9656150)
I would say it isn't even a case of healthy v unhealthy even people that are attempting to eat healthily are duped into consuming large amounts of sugar just due to the fact the labeling can claim the product is 'low fat' it's totally counterproductive and dangerous.

Everything has sugar in it, even bread it has a hundred different names sucrose, maltose, rice syrup, high fructose corn syrup... it's all sugar.

No wonder kids are turning their noses up at veg, their taste buds are tuned into all things sweet, it is literally impossible to avoid it unless you scrutinise everything or cut out ALL processed food.

The next biggest problem is hydrogenated fat, (trans fats)this is in anything from a take away, margerine, cakes, biscuits and doughnuts, avoid them on the daily and you've cracked it. Cut down on shop bought ones or make your own if you want to control what goes in your goodies.

All food is is common sense if you take in more calories ( unit of energy) than you expend you put on weight. If you take in empty calories with no nutritional value ( cake, pastry, biscuit) you have no energy, meaning you move less (after the initial 5 min sugar rush) and you put on weight.

The problem is sugar is very addictive, I really struggle with it and have found myself on more than one occasion pre diabetic....it's easier quitting cigs or booze! Seriously :/

This is what worries me about adopting more American products and opening more American model franchises over here. Americans are big on trans fats and fructose. Americans even add sugar to their milk and add maple syrup to their bacon. :fist:

We now add sugar to our baby formula (which is causing untold problems) and if you buy a low-fat product its laden in sugar or its so highly processed the body doesn't recognize it as food and so stores it in the liver. A lot of diet food is a complete con and should be avoided.

DemolitionRed 13-10-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9656247)
After you’ve weighed out portions for a while it becomes second nature to know roughly how many cals are in things.You can stop weighing and guess more or less how much you’re consuming.If you’re being mindful of portion sizes you’re probably on the right track.Combine that with getting out and walking or training if you’re that way inclined and you’re onto a winner.

Its just getting into a good habit. When we eat well we are healthier and when we are healthy we are more likely to exercise. I've had a fitbit since they first came out and although I no longer use it for 'calories in, calories out' I have a very good idea how many calories I eat a day.

I think another thing is portion size. Its

-Sue- 14-10-2017 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9655593)
My solution? For every pound one is overweight, a pound is deducted from benefits.

wow spoken like a true judgmental person shall we charge skinny people less for being smaller? shall we charge short people less for taking up less headspace on the bus?

pfft...

perhaps we should educate as to WHY people comfort eat when they face comments like yours!

-Sue- 14-10-2017 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9656144)
Also get a sports bottle and fill it with water.Take it with you all day and drink it.Have a Tea or coffee now and then when you need a boost.Water helps you feel full if you drink plenty.
This stuff isn’t complicated.I quite regularly bulk up and cut down.Just gotta know how much you’re putting in your body.

yes the need to pee is slimming for cuddly people...

hmm every scenario is different working parent...illness... its not always as simple as weigh out portions drink water... exercise..

waterhog 15-10-2017 02:53 PM

basicly it is sue - only eat healthy - only drink water and the weight will drop off you like when you read a poem ?


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