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LeatherTrumpet 07-12-2017 12:29 PM

'FACT' black people commit more crime said a policeman. Cleared
 
Police who pulled over Bentley-driving DJ and told him it was a 'fact' black people commit more crime were NOT being racist, watchdog rules

  • DJ was driving hired car near a London nightclub in which he often performs
  • When he was pulled over by police, he kept his dashboard camera running
  • He recorded an officer saying black men were more likely to commit crime
  • Officer said: 'This isn't racist. Predominantly, the criminal profile of people who do it are black people'
  • IPCC says it wasn't racist but officer has got training after 'clumsly' language

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Police who pulled over a Bentley-driving DJ and said it was a 'fact' black people commit more crime were not being racist, an independent probe concluded.

Officers stopped DMO Deejay while he was filming a music video in central London and said it was common practice for black men to be stopped when they're wearing 'gangsta-style clothing'.

Scotland Yard apologised after widespread claims of racism following the incident in Leicester Square at around midnight on January 5.

But the police watchdog investigation found there was 'no evidence the officer's comments were intentionally discriminatory or targeted'.

An IPCC investigation report said: 'The car was stopped after being spotted changing lanes randomly without indicating, with the top down in the early hours of a winter morning.

'Checks also revealed that the car was registered to a dealership rather than an individual.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...OT-racist.html

disgraceful waste of valuable police time by a pair of prize clowns

bitontheslide 07-12-2017 12:32 PM

its no worse than saying people from liverpool are good runners

Tom4784 07-12-2017 12:34 PM

Yay, racial profiling is okay!

Oliver_W 07-12-2017 12:38 PM

Whether or not it's true, why spout it out when pulling someone over? Sure, they guy could have been all "derr why pull me over waycist" but you just tell him to shut up and drive properly if you don't wanna be pulled over.

LeatherTrumpet 07-12-2017 12:45 PM

Its the police I feel sorry for

Toy Soldier 07-12-2017 12:49 PM

There's a good reason that the police aren't supposed to engage in racial profiling, whether the stats back it up or not. He may not have been being outright "racist", as such, but by his own admission he was profiling, which is by definition a form of racial prejudice?

Niamh. 07-12-2017 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Hogfather (Post 9728698)
Whether or not it's true, why spout it out when pulling someone over? Sure, they guy could have been all "derr why pull me over waycist" but you just tell him to shut up and drive properly if you don't wanna be pulled over.

Exactly, I would expect a member of the Police force to be less provocative than that when dealing with members of the public

Denver 07-12-2017 12:51 PM

Yet prisons are over run with white people

Cherie 07-12-2017 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfSheba (Post 9728715)
Yet prisons are over run with white people

racist!

some training is needed.

LeatherTrumpet 07-12-2017 12:57 PM

Obviously we dont know what the 2 "gentlemen" were like but I would imagine they were entitled and vile to the Officer who probably gets "your a racist mate" on every stop like that

who would do their job?

Niamh. 07-12-2017 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 (Post 9728733)
Obviously we dont know what the 2 "gentlemen" were like but I would imagine they were entitled and vile to the Officer who probably gets "your a racist mate" on every stop like that

who would do their job?

They don't seem to be struggling for people wanting to join the force. They get paid to do this job, they really need to know how to deal with people who are going to be annoyed/frustrated it's what they signed up for after all.

Kazanne 07-12-2017 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9728689)
its no worse than saying people from liverpool are good runners

Yep.:wavey:

LeatherTrumpet 07-12-2017 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve (Post 9728740)
They don't seem to be struggling for people wanting to join the force. They get paid to do this job, they really need to know how to deal with people who are going to be annoyed/frustrated it's what they signed up for after all.

I think when you get it 24/7 its not as easy as that. Its not like you are dealing with people buying toothpaste. Every stop you can get killed, that is EVERY stop. Its unbelievably stressfull. And you are dealing with utter scumbags, people most of us have never come across.

montblanc 07-12-2017 01:06 PM

not okay

Niamh. 07-12-2017 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 (Post 9728750)
I think when you get it 24/7 its not as easy as that. Its not like you are dealing with people buying toothpaste. Every stop you can get killed, that is EVERY stop. Its unbelievably stressfull. And you are dealing with utter scumbags, people most of us have never come across.

Well if you can't deal with doing the job you signed up for maybe it's not for you LT

Livia 07-12-2017 01:14 PM

So black people commit more crime. Presumably Scottish people drink more alcohol, Jews are all misers and the Irish are stupid.

The truth is it has more to to with poverty than race. We no longer need sociologists to tell us why poor people are bad.

Niamh. 07-12-2017 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9728770)
So black people commit more crime. Presumably Scottish people drink more alcohol, Jews are all misers and the Irish are stupid.

The truth is it has more to to with poverty than race. We no longer need sociologists to tell us why poor people are bad.

Absolutely.

LeatherTrumpet 07-12-2017 01:21 PM

Id expect the occupants were more than aware they would get stopped (maybe as part of their "video") and the first thing out of their gobs would have been "bruv you are only stoppin us because we are black"

maybe not but id wager it was

:idc:

Toy Soldier 07-12-2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 (Post 9728784)
Id expect the occupants were more than aware they would get stopped (maybe as part of their "video") and the first thing out of their gobs would have been "bruv you are only stoppin us because we are black"

maybe not but id wager it was

:idc:

So what? There's literally no reason to respond to that with anything other than "The reason you've been pulled over is ________".

Toy Soldier 07-12-2017 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9728770)
So black people commit more crime. Presumably Scottish people drink more alcohol, Jews are all misers and the Irish are stupid.

The truth is it has more to to with poverty than race. We no longer need sociologists to tell us why poor people are bad.

:hehe: "LT, Livia and Niamh walk into a bar..."

Niamh. 07-12-2017 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 9728787)
:hehe: "LT, Livia and Niamh walk into a bar..."

Livia ducks the round again and Niamh gets caught to pay again while LT orders a double and a pint

Livia 07-12-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 9728787)
:hehe: "LT, Livia and Niamh walk into a bar..."

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve (Post 9728793)
Livia ducks the round again and Niamh gets caught to pay again while LT orders a double and a pint

LMAO....

you two...

LeatherTrumpet 07-12-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 9728785)
So what? There's literally no reason to respond to that with anything other than "The reason you've been pulled over is ________".

who knows but thankfully he was cleared

bitontheslide 07-12-2017 01:37 PM

it was a confrontational statement to make, whether it is true or not. It is not the job of the police to invite confrontation, and that was clearly their aim, why else would they say it. Given that the whole conversation was recorded on the video, the full context of the exchange must be available

Toy Soldier 07-12-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9728808)
it was a confrontational statement to make, whether it is true or not. It is not the job of the police to invite confrontation, and that was clearly their aim, why else would they say it. Given that the whole conversation was recorded on the video, the full context of the exchange must be available

Well exactly, as LT rightly points out, the job of a police officer can become a dangerous one at any time so part of that job is to defuse tense situations, not escalate them and make them more dangerous?


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