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arista 04-05-2018 10:15 AM

Black Gran (Windrush Victim) Blocked by New Labour in 2009 for returning home
 
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This Windrush error
goes way back to New Labour

So not just Conservative Run Government
It was a Ch5HD/ITN news reporter that helped her get back
to the UK faster

Tom4784 04-05-2018 10:30 AM

Aaand the passing of the buck begins, let's not hold Theresa May's government responsible for their actions when we can reach for an excuse to blame a Labour government that no longer exists.

arista 04-05-2018 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9980090)
Aaand the passing of the buck begins, let's not hold Theresa May's government responsible for their actions when we can reach for an excuse to blame a Labour government that no longer exists.


Wrong Dezzy
Hold the PM at fault

I agree with you

All I am making clear to everyone is Windrush
goes way back to when Blair was in Power.
Nothing wrong with the Full Facts


Life In The City

jaxie 04-05-2018 05:47 PM

How is it passing the buck when the labour government is responsible for that case? Both parties are to blame for the windrush scandal. It goes back years.

kirklancaster 04-05-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9980639)
How is it passing the buck when the labour government is responsible for that case? Both parties are to blame for the windrush scandal. It goes back years.

Of course it does, and of course, the Labour Government that was complicit at the time they were in office SHOULD bear some of the blame - time passing does NOT mitigate culpability.

kirklancaster 04-05-2018 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9980106)
Wrong Dezzy
Hold the PM at fault

I agree with you

All I am making clear to everyone is Windrush
goes way back to when Blair was in Power.
Nothing wrong with the Full Facts



Life In The City

Truly spoken Arista.

Tom4784 04-05-2018 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9980639)
How is it passing the buck when the labour government is responsible for that case? Both parties are to blame for the windrush scandal. It goes back years.

Because people will just try to make this out to be a Labour issue like they always do. It won't surprise me to see the media decide to focus on this case because it paints Labour in a bad light then on recent events featuring a current government just because there's a massive bias for Tories.

I think this is a story that needs to be told but not on the expense of trying to distance Theresa May's name from the scandal which people will try to do.

I agree that both sides are culpable but like I said, people will just use this story to excise their beloved tories from blame.

kirklancaster 04-05-2018 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9980787)
Because people will just try to make this out to be a Labour issue like they always do. It won't surprise me to see the media decide to focus on this case because it paints Labour in a bad light then on recent events featuring a current government just because there's a massive bias for Tories.

I think this is a story that needs to be told but not on the expense of trying to distance Theresa May's name from the scandal which people will try to do.

I agree that both sides are culpable but like I said, people will just use this story to excise their beloved tories from blame.

I hold Theresa May up as CHIEF culprit but Labour are culpable too, and I personally can't see ANYONE who is honest, trying to shift the blame TOTALLY away from May onto Blair.

Brillopad 04-05-2018 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9980787)

I agree that both sides are culpable but like I said, people will just use this story to excise their beloved tories from blame.

Like Corbyn supporters have been doing by trying to put all the blame on the Tories! They would know alright.

Tom4784 04-05-2018 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9980819)
Like Corbyn supporters have been doing by trying to put all the blame on the Tories! They would know alright.

Aaand Corbyn gets brought up in an unrelated thread. *consults the SD drinking game rule sheet and downs two shots of vodka".

user104658 04-05-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9980819)
Like Corbyn supporters have been doing by trying to put all the blame on the Tories! They would know alright.

This issue has nothing at all to do with Corbyn though :think:

Denver 04-05-2018 09:22 PM

I don't like the way you refer to her as black in the title Arista

Brillopad 05-05-2018 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9980853)
Aaand Corbyn gets brought up in an unrelated thread. *consults the SD drinking game rule sheet and downs two shots of vodka".

He is the leader of the Labour Party - of course he gets brought up! It is his finatical young supporters desperately trying to look for any reason to divert criticism away from Labour, and hence Corbyn, and on to the Tories. :rolleyes:

Nicky91 05-05-2018 08:35 AM

Corbyn is a piece of sh*te, he's so racist and full of himself (almost like our Geert Wilders) :laugh3:


i hope that trash never becomes PM

Brillopad 05-05-2018 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9980891)
I don't like the way you refer to her as black in the title Arista

Ffs - it’s relevant to the story! I don’t like the way you try to make more of it than it is.

arista 05-05-2018 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9981311)
Ffs - it’s relevant to the story! I don’t like the way you try to make more of it than it is.

Thank You Brillo.

kirklancaster 05-05-2018 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9980891)
I don't like the way you refer to her as black in the title Arista

I do not understand your reaction to the word 'Black' either Adam.

She is 'Black' - which is now the preferred 'Politically Correct' descriptor as opposed to 'Coloured'.

There is nothing offensive in the use of that word in the context of the subject matter, nor in Arista's choice to use it in his 'title'. :shrug:

Denver 05-05-2018 09:33 AM

You can say which country she was from not her skin colour

bots 05-05-2018 09:35 AM

It's certainly politically related and attributable to the tories and labour , but it's a bit of a stretch to hang this one specifically on Corbyn :laugh:

kirklancaster 05-05-2018 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9981356)
You can say which country she was from not her skin colour

Why on Earth not?

arista 05-05-2018 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9981356)
You can say which country she was from not her skin colour


There is loads of threads with Black Man
at the start.


Are taking the piss?
Or are you Hardcore PC?

Brillopad 05-05-2018 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9981356)
You can say which country she was from not her skin colour

You are not helping yourself here Adam as you are making the word black sound like a dirty word. Is that what you want. :shrug:

It was used within context so your objections sound very much like a PC agenda!

arista 05-05-2018 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9981358)
It's certainly politically related and attributable to the tories and labour , but it's a bit of a stretch to hang this one specifically on Corbyn :laugh:


No it's not him
Hence "New Labour" on the title
he was a back bencher back then.

Denver 05-05-2018 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9981378)
You are not helping yourself here Adam as you are making the word black sound like a dirty word. Is that what you want. :shrug:

It was used within context so your objections sound very much like a PC agenda!

Why do you think its OK to define someone by their skin colour? You don't understand the troubles my family have had to go through

Tom4784 05-05-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9981303)
He is the leader of the Labour Party - of course he gets brought up! It is his finatical young supporters desperately trying to look for any reason to divert criticism away from Labour, and hence Corbyn, and on to the Tories. :rolleyes:

*Fanatical unless you're accusing Labour fans of being fish fanatics?

Not when this story happened in 2009. Your grievances should be with the Brown era of Labour.

You've pretty much proved what I was saying earlier about people shifting the focus away from Tories for the current scandal for an excuse to blame Labour while excising the Tories from that same blame.


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