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Old 04-05-2018, 10:15 AM #1
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Default Black Gran (Windrush Victim) Blocked by New Labour in 2009 for returning home




This Windrush error
goes way back to New Labour

So not just Conservative Run Government
It was a Ch5HD/ITN news reporter that helped her get back
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Aaand the passing of the buck begins, let's not hold Theresa May's government responsible for their actions when we can reach for an excuse to blame a Labour government that no longer exists.
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Aaand the passing of the buck begins, let's not hold Theresa May's government responsible for their actions when we can reach for an excuse to blame a Labour government that no longer exists.

Wrong Dezzy
Hold the PM at fault

I agree with you

All I am making clear to everyone is Windrush
goes way back to when Blair was in Power.
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How is it passing the buck when the labour government is responsible for that case? Both parties are to blame for the windrush scandal. It goes back years.
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How is it passing the buck when the labour government is responsible for that case? Both parties are to blame for the windrush scandal. It goes back years.
Of course it does, and of course, the Labour Government that was complicit at the time they were in office SHOULD bear some of the blame - time passing does NOT mitigate culpability.
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Wrong Dezzy
Hold the PM at fault

I agree with you

All I am making clear to everyone is Windrush
goes way back to when Blair was in Power.
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How is it passing the buck when the labour government is responsible for that case? Both parties are to blame for the windrush scandal. It goes back years.
Because people will just try to make this out to be a Labour issue like they always do. It won't surprise me to see the media decide to focus on this case because it paints Labour in a bad light then on recent events featuring a current government just because there's a massive bias for Tories.

I think this is a story that needs to be told but not on the expense of trying to distance Theresa May's name from the scandal which people will try to do.

I agree that both sides are culpable but like I said, people will just use this story to excise their beloved tories from blame.
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Because people will just try to make this out to be a Labour issue like they always do. It won't surprise me to see the media decide to focus on this case because it paints Labour in a bad light then on recent events featuring a current government just because there's a massive bias for Tories.

I think this is a story that needs to be told but not on the expense of trying to distance Theresa May's name from the scandal which people will try to do.

I agree that both sides are culpable but like I said, people will just use this story to excise their beloved tories from blame.
I hold Theresa May up as CHIEF culprit but Labour are culpable too, and I personally can't see ANYONE who is honest, trying to shift the blame TOTALLY away from May onto Blair.
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I agree that both sides are culpable but like I said, people will just use this story to excise their beloved tories from blame.
Like Corbyn supporters have been doing by trying to put all the blame on the Tories! They would know alright.
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Like Corbyn supporters have been doing by trying to put all the blame on the Tories! They would know alright.
Aaand Corbyn gets brought up in an unrelated thread. *consults the SD drinking game rule sheet and downs two shots of vodka".
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Like Corbyn supporters have been doing by trying to put all the blame on the Tories! They would know alright.
This issue has nothing at all to do with Corbyn though
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I don't like the way you refer to her as black in the title Arista
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Aaand Corbyn gets brought up in an unrelated thread. *consults the SD drinking game rule sheet and downs two shots of vodka".
He is the leader of the Labour Party - of course he gets brought up! It is his finatical young supporters desperately trying to look for any reason to divert criticism away from Labour, and hence Corbyn, and on to the Tories.

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Corbyn is a piece of sh*te, he's so racist and full of himself (almost like our Geert Wilders)


i hope that trash never becomes PM
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I don't like the way you refer to her as black in the title Arista
Ffs - it’s relevant to the story! I don’t like the way you try to make more of it than it is.
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Ffs - it’s relevant to the story! I don’t like the way you try to make more of it than it is.
Thank You Brillo.
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I do not understand your reaction to the word 'Black' either Adam.

She is 'Black' - which is now the preferred 'Politically Correct' descriptor as opposed to 'Coloured'.

There is nothing offensive in the use of that word in the context of the subject matter, nor in Arista's choice to use it in his 'title'.
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It's certainly politically related and attributable to the tories and labour , but it's a bit of a stretch to hang this one specifically on Corbyn
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Why on Earth not?
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There is loads of threads with Black Man
at the start.


Are taking the piss?
Or are you Hardcore PC?
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You are not helping yourself here Adam as you are making the word black sound like a dirty word. Is that what you want.

It was used within context so your objections sound very much like a PC agenda!
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It's certainly politically related and attributable to the tories and labour , but it's a bit of a stretch to hang this one specifically on Corbyn

No it's not him
Hence "New Labour" on the title
he was a back bencher back then.
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You are not helping yourself here Adam as you are making the word black sound like a dirty word. Is that what you want.

It was used within context so your objections sound very much like a PC agenda!
Why do you think its OK to define someone by their skin colour? You don't understand the troubles my family have had to go through
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He is the leader of the Labour Party - of course he gets brought up! It is his finatical young supporters desperately trying to look for any reason to divert criticism away from Labour, and hence Corbyn, and on to the Tories.
*Fanatical unless you're accusing Labour fans of being fish fanatics?

Not when this story happened in 2009. Your grievances should be with the Brown era of Labour.

You've pretty much proved what I was saying earlier about people shifting the focus away from Tories for the current scandal for an excuse to blame Labour while excising the Tories from that same blame.

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