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Kazanne 27-07-2018 11:43 PM

baby dies when his mom 'FORGOT' him !!!
 
How does this even happen,this poor baby,
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartandhp

Scarlett. 27-07-2018 11:47 PM

It happens more often than you think, parents get into a routine, something disrupts the routine and then this happens.

Tom4784 27-07-2018 11:51 PM

It happens through a tragic series of circumstances. It's sadly a common story, people who are tired or are adjusting to a shift in their family often make mistakes.

I hope the mother doesn't face charges for it, it was an unfortunate mistake that she'll regret forever.

Tony Montana 27-07-2018 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10112087)
It happens more often than you think, parents get into a routine, something disrupts the routine and then this happens.

You're Not Wrong!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-left-car.html

Vanessa 28-07-2018 03:59 AM

How can you forget that you have a child? Poor baby :bawling: But I'm sure the mother didn't do it on purpose. This is so sad and tragic :sad:

Josy 28-07-2018 06:39 AM

Devastating story :/
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10112087)
It happens more often than you think, parents get into a routine, something disrupts the routine and then this happens.

Then those are terrible parents.

If being out of routine causes you to neglect your child then the child is not your number one priority.

Kazanne 28-07-2018 06:45 AM

Well I have kids and I assure you I have never forgot I had them,to leave him for a whole day !!! nah,not buying that, she may not have meant to harm him but something isn't right.

Beso 28-07-2018 06:57 AM

Disgrace....i forgot...

Bull****.

kirklancaster 28-07-2018 08:10 AM

This 'act' is absolutely enraging and the cries of mitigation from some even more so.

NO ONE forgets about a tiny 3 months old baby for an ENTIRE day even if it is left in another room at home, let alone in a car on its own on a scorching hot Summer's day and ESPECIALLY not its ****ing mother.

My grandchildren come into my thoughts regularly throughout the day and I am a man and not their mother.

The full horror of this innocent tiny baby's death in that stifling heat inside that car is punctuated by the 'mothers' reaction upon coming back to the car and opening the door:

"She came out to the car, and she says she opened the car door and was like, "what is that smell" and she noticed that Aiden was still in the back seat.'.

****ing sickening and like others on here, I do not buy the "I forgot" Bullshot at all.

I wish that I had not read this.

Kazanne 28-07-2018 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10112224)
This 'act' is absolutely enraging and the cries of mitigation from some even more so.

NO ONE forgets about a tiny 3 months old baby for an ENTIRE day even if it is left in another room at home, let alone in a car on its own on a scorching hot Summer's day and ESPECIALLY not its ****ing mother.

My grandchildren come into my thoughts regularly throughout the day and I am a man and not their mother.

The full horror of this innocent tiny baby's death in that stifling heat inside that car is punctuated by the 'mothers' reaction upon coming back to the car and opening the door:

"She came out to the car, and she says she opened the car door and was like, "what is that smell" and she noticed that Aiden was still in the back seat.'.

****ing sickening and like others on here, I do not buy the "I forgot" Bullshot at all.

I wish that I had not read this.

Same Kirk,when mine go their friends or grandparents we ring up several times a day to check they are being good and are ok.

smudgie 28-07-2018 08:47 AM

Tragic.
What an awful death for that baby, and what terrible guilt his mother will carry for the rest of her life.
:sad:

Livia 28-07-2018 09:42 AM

I'm surprised people are so understanding. She left her child in a boiling car to die a slow and horrible death because something more important was on her mind.

She should volunteer herself for sterilisation.

Cherie 28-07-2018 10:00 AM

I don’t think it can be dismissed as oh dear she just forgot, cases like this need investigating, if this was a dog left in a car to die an excruciating death, we would want questions asked and the person charged with neglect, these cases are so common it’s not difficult for a parent to use it as a way to murder their child

user104658 28-07-2018 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10112224)
This 'act' is absolutely enraging and the cries of mitigation from some even more so.

NO ONE forgets about a tiny 3 months old baby for an ENTIRE day even if it is left in another room at home, let alone in a car on its own on a scorching hot Summer's day and ESPECIALLY not its ****ing mother.

My grandchildren come into my thoughts regularly throughout the day and I am a man and not their mother.

The full horror of this innocent tiny baby's death in that stifling heat inside that car is punctuated by the 'mothers' reaction upon coming back to the car and opening the door:

"She came out to the car, and she says she opened the car door and was like, "what is that smell" and she noticed that Aiden was still in the back seat.'.

****ing sickening and like others on here, I do not buy the "I forgot" Bullshot at all.

I wish that I had not read this.


It is horrendous Kirk, but it doesn't come from "not thinking about the kid" it comes from a combination of routine, exhaustion, and believing that the child has been dropped off with a carer / at daycare... esentially carrying out a routine but "missing a step" due to a lapse in concentration, misremembering that step in the routine from previous days. Human cognition is based largely on patterns, routines and "filling in the gaps"... that's just how our brains work.

The problem of course is that in the modern world, most "human routine" involves mindless slog at work and not family life, even when we have young children, which is utterly arse-backwards but it is what it is.

As for not believing it... well... it doesn't really matter if you (or any other layperson) believes it or not; it is a scientifically verified psychological phenomenon. It's like saying you don't believe that the world is spherical because you don't understand the concept of gravity.

user104658 28-07-2018 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10112297)
She left her child in a boiling car to die a slow and horrible death because something more important was on her mind.

Yes. Work, work, work, bills and money. Because the world we live in slaps us across the face, every single day from about 5 years old, with the idea that work and money are THE most important things full stop. And if one even dares to have other priorities on their mind, there'll be some swift kick up the arse or other bellowing at them to "get back to work".

It's a mess. The whole situation is horrific, but blaming a new parent for the accidental death of their child - something which will haunt their every moment for the rest of their life anyway - is also pretty ****ing sick.

Marsh. 28-07-2018 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10112205)
Disgrace....i forgot...

Bull****.

How is it bull?

Are you suggesting she didn't forget?

In which case why would she leave the child?

AnnieK 28-07-2018 11:17 AM

When I was born my mum already had my brother who was 2 and never slept more than 2 hours a night. She then had me. When I was 3 weeks old, she left me outside a local shop in my pram (as was the norm then). She did ger shopping, dragging a belligerent 2 year old with her, paid and walked home. Only when one of the neighbours stopped to ask where the baby was did she realise she had walked out of the shop, past the pram and home. Does that make her a bad mother?? No, it made her a woman struggling on virtually no sleep in years who made a mistake. She was horribly guilt ridden for years about it (although later probably wished she never went back for me). I do not disagree that this needs investigating to ensure there is no malice or motive involved and child services need to ensure her other children are not at risk. The poor baby will have suffered terribly, the rest if the family will continue to suffer eternally and if the mother did it intentionally she needs to pay the price. However, if it really was a case that she forgot about him, the price she will pay for that would hurt far more than any prison sentence ever could

Beso 28-07-2018 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10112377)
How is it bull?

Are you suggesting she didn't forget?

In which case why would she leave the child?

Im guessing her hubby works so couldnt have the kid and her work doesnt allow her to bring her kid in...so she left it in the car knowingly....but unaware of the danger.

Kazanne 28-07-2018 11:34 AM

Even if your child is dropped off at a nursey or a carer,you ring to check they are ok,I am shocked people can be so nonchalant about it, what about feeding him and changing him he was left ALL day.

AnnieK 28-07-2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10112423)
Even if your child is dropped off at a nursey or a carer,you ring to check they are ok,I am shocked people can be so nonchalant about it, what about feeding him and changing him he was left ALL day.

But if (and it is an if) she genuinely forgot she hadn't dropped him off, she would have thought he was being fed and changed at daycare.

Its not nonchalance either, its understanding there may have been no malice and it was a genuine, tragic act.

Denver 28-07-2018 12:16 PM

I don't buy anyone who said they never forgot their kids even for 2 mins it's happens but doesn't make them an evil person

Niamh. 28-07-2018 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10112372)
It is horrendous Kirk, but it doesn't come from "not thinking about the kid" it comes from a combination of routine, exhaustion, and believing that the child has been dropped off with a carer / at daycare... esentially carrying out a routine but "missing a step" due to a lapse in concentration, misremembering that step in the routine from previous days. Human cognition is based largely on patterns, routines and "filling in the gaps"... that's just how our brains work.

The problem of course is that in the modern world, most "human routine" involves mindless slog at work and not family life, even when we have young children, which is utterly arse-backwards but it is what it is.

As for not believing it... well... it doesn't really matter if you (or any other layperson) believes it or not; it is a scientifically verified psychological phenomenon. It's like saying you don't believe that the world is spherical because you don't understand the concept of gravity.

Yeah agree with this. Poor baby though :( for everyone calling for the mothers head, don't worry I'm pretty sure she will never get over this

Tom4784 28-07-2018 12:35 PM

As ever, it's easy to judge, harder to try to understand.

This happens often and to good parents too. I think anyone who has kids should know how emotionally and physically draining it can be and how easy it can be to make a mistake like this, I've known parents to forget to pick up their children from school. At work recently there was a parent who literally left the store before realising she left her child behind. Parents make mistakes and accidents happen.

it's just unfortunate that the circumstances of this mistake proved deadly.

It seems quite sadistic to call for her head, punishment for the sake of punishment is pointless and she will likely carry this to her grave. No need to punish her when she's capable and already doing so herself.

Livia 28-07-2018 12:39 PM

Well anyone wishing to murder their child - and if a child is going to be murdered it's most likely to be by the parents, all they have to do is say they left the child in the car and forgot. Everyone's heart will break for them.

Cherie 28-07-2018 12:42 PM

Honestly you would think that a parent never killed their child ever! The baby was 3 months, so can't have been in nursery very long, the least you would do is ring up in your lunchbreak to see how the baby is doing, my sister and her hubby run a kennels and dogs can be left for the day, and people ring up to see how they are doing. It may have been a tragedy but it still needs to be investigated also it looks like she was estranged from the father so there may be a revenge element if he took up with someone else....


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