[Kazanne]

How does this even happen,this poor baby,
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartandhp

[Scarlett.]

It happens more often than you think, parents get into a routine, something disrupts the routine and then this happens.

[Tom4784]

It happens through a tragic series of circumstances. It's sadly a common story, people who are tired or are adjusting to a shift in their family often make mistakes.

I hope the mother doesn't face charges for it, it was an unfortunate mistake that she'll regret forever.

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by Dia.

It happens more often than you think, parents get into a routine, something disrupts the routine and then this happens.

You're Not Wrong!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-left-car.html

[Vanessa]

How can you forget that you have a child? Poor baby But I'm sure the mother didn't do it on purpose. This is so sad and tragic

[Josy]

Devastating story :/

Originally Posted by Dia.

It happens more often than you think, parents get into a routine, something disrupts the routine and then this happens.

Then those are terrible parents.

If being out of routine causes you to neglect your child then the child is not your number one priority.

[Kazanne]

Well I have kids and I assure you I have never forgot I had them,to leave him for a whole day !!! nah,not buying that, she may not have meant to harm him but something isn't right.

[Beso]

Disgrace....i forgot...

Bull****.

[kirklancaster]

This 'act' is absolutely enraging and the cries of mitigation from some even more so.

NO ONE forgets about a tiny 3 months old baby for an ENTIRE day even if it is left in another room at home, let alone in a car on its own on a scorching hot Summer's day and ESPECIALLY not its ****ing mother.

My grandchildren come into my thoughts regularly throughout the day and I am a man and not their mother.

The full horror of this innocent tiny baby's death in that stifling heat inside that car is punctuated by the 'mothers' reaction upon coming back to the car and opening the door:

"She came out to the car, and she says she opened the car door and was like, "what is that smell" and she noticed that Aiden was still in the back seat.'.

****ing sickening and like others on here, I do not buy the "I forgot" Bullshot at all.

I wish that I had not read this.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

This 'act' is absolutely enraging and the cries of mitigation from some even more so.

NO ONE forgets about a tiny 3 months old baby for an ENTIRE day even if it is left in another room at home, let alone in a car on its own on a scorching hot Summer's day and ESPECIALLY not its ****ing mother.

My grandchildren come into my thoughts regularly throughout the day and I am a man and not their mother.

The full horror of this innocent tiny baby's death in that stifling heat inside that car is punctuated by the 'mothers' reaction upon coming back to the car and opening the door:

"She came out to the car, and she says she opened the car door and was like, "what is that smell" and she noticed that Aiden was still in the back seat.'.

****ing sickening and like others on here, I do not buy the "I forgot" Bullshot at all.

I wish that I had not read this.

Same Kirk,when mine go their friends or grandparents we ring up several times a day to check they are being good and are ok.

[smudgie]

Tragic.
What an awful death for that baby, and what terrible guilt his mother will carry for the rest of her life.

[Livia]

I'm surprised people are so understanding. She left her child in a boiling car to die a slow and horrible death because something more important was on her mind.

She should volunteer herself for sterilisation.

[Cherie]

I don’t think it can be dismissed as oh dear she just forgot, cases like this need investigating, if this was a dog left in a car to die an excruciating death, we would want questions asked and the person charged with neglect, these cases are so common it’s not difficult for a parent to use it as a way to murder their child

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

This 'act' is absolutely enraging and the cries of mitigation from some even more so.

NO ONE forgets about a tiny 3 months old baby for an ENTIRE day even if it is left in another room at home, let alone in a car on its own on a scorching hot Summer's day and ESPECIALLY not its ****ing mother.

My grandchildren come into my thoughts regularly throughout the day and I am a man and not their mother.

The full horror of this innocent tiny baby's death in that stifling heat inside that car is punctuated by the 'mothers' reaction upon coming back to the car and opening the door:

"She came out to the car, and she says she opened the car door and was like, "what is that smell" and she noticed that Aiden was still in the back seat.'.

****ing sickening and like others on here, I do not buy the "I forgot" Bullshot at all.

I wish that I had not read this.

It is horrendous Kirk, but it doesn't come from "not thinking about the kid" it comes from a combination of routine, exhaustion, and believing that the child has been dropped off with a carer / at daycare... esentially carrying out a routine but "missing a step" due to a lapse in concentration, misremembering that step in the routine from previous days. Human cognition is based largely on patterns, routines and "filling in the gaps"... that's just how our brains work.

The problem of course is that in the modern world, most "human routine" involves mindless slog at work and not family life, even when we have young children, which is utterly arse-backwards but it is what it is.

As for not believing it... well... it doesn't really matter if you (or any other layperson) believes it or not; it is a scientifically verified psychological phenomenon. It's like saying you don't believe that the world is spherical because you don't understand the concept of gravity.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

She left her child in a boiling car to die a slow and horrible death because something more important was on her mind.

Yes. Work, work, work, bills and money. Because the world we live in slaps us across the face, every single day from about 5 years old, with the idea that work and money are THE most important things full stop. And if one even dares to have other priorities on their mind, there'll be some swift kick up the arse or other bellowing at them to "get back to work".

It's a mess. The whole situation is horrific, but blaming a new parent for the accidental death of their child - something which will haunt their every moment for the rest of their life anyway - is also pretty ****ing sick.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Disgrace....i forgot...

Bull****.

How is it bull?

Are you suggesting she didn't forget?

In which case why would she leave the child?

[AnnieK]

When I was born my mum already had my brother who was 2 and never slept more than 2 hours a night. She then had me. When I was 3 weeks old, she left me outside a local shop in my pram (as was the norm then). She did ger shopping, dragging a belligerent 2 year old with her, paid and walked home. Only when one of the neighbours stopped to ask where the baby was did she realise she had walked out of the shop, past the pram and home. Does that make her a bad mother?? No, it made her a woman struggling on virtually no sleep in years who made a mistake. She was horribly guilt ridden for years about it (although later probably wished she never went back for me). I do not disagree that this needs investigating to ensure there is no malice or motive involved and child services need to ensure her other children are not at risk. The poor baby will have suffered terribly, the rest if the family will continue to suffer eternally and if the mother did it intentionally she needs to pay the price. However, if it really was a case that she forgot about him, the price she will pay for that would hurt far more than any prison sentence ever could

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How is it bull?

Are you suggesting she didn't forget?

In which case why would she leave the child?

Im guessing her hubby works so couldnt have the kid and her work doesnt allow her to bring her kid in...so she left it in the car knowingly....but unaware of the danger.

[Kazanne]

Even if your child is dropped off at a nursey or a carer,you ring to check they are ok,I am shocked people can be so nonchalant about it, what about feeding him and changing him he was left ALL day.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Even if your child is dropped off at a nursey or a carer,you ring to check they are ok,I am shocked people can be so nonchalant about it, what about feeding him and changing him he was left ALL day.

But if (and it is an if) she genuinely forgot she hadn't dropped him off, she would have thought he was being fed and changed at daycare.

Its not nonchalance either, its understanding there may have been no malice and it was a genuine, tragic act.

[Denver]

I don't buy anyone who said they never forgot their kids even for 2 mins it's happens but doesn't make them an evil person

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It is horrendous Kirk, but it doesn't come from "not thinking about the kid" it comes from a combination of routine, exhaustion, and believing that the child has been dropped off with a carer / at daycare... esentially carrying out a routine but "missing a step" due to a lapse in concentration, misremembering that step in the routine from previous days. Human cognition is based largely on patterns, routines and "filling in the gaps"... that's just how our brains work.

The problem of course is that in the modern world, most "human routine" involves mindless slog at work and not family life, even when we have young children, which is utterly arse-backwards but it is what it is.

As for not believing it... well... it doesn't really matter if you (or any other layperson) believes it or not; it is a scientifically verified psychological phenomenon. It's like saying you don't believe that the world is spherical because you don't understand the concept of gravity.

Yeah agree with this. Poor baby though for everyone calling for the mothers head, don't worry I'm pretty sure she will never get over this

[Tom4784]

As ever, it's easy to judge, harder to try to understand.

This happens often and to good parents too. I think anyone who has kids should know how emotionally and physically draining it can be and how easy it can be to make a mistake like this, I've known parents to forget to pick up their children from school. At work recently there was a parent who literally left the store before realising she left her child behind. Parents make mistakes and accidents happen.

it's just unfortunate that the circumstances of this mistake proved deadly.

It seems quite sadistic to call for her head, punishment for the sake of punishment is pointless and she will likely carry this to her grave. No need to punish her when she's capable and already doing so herself.

[Livia]

Well anyone wishing to murder their child - and if a child is going to be murdered it's most likely to be by the parents, all they have to do is say they left the child in the car and forgot. Everyone's heart will break for them.

[Cherie]

Honestly you would think that a parent never killed their child ever! The baby was 3 months, so can't have been in nursery very long, the least you would do is ring up in your lunchbreak to see how the baby is doing, my sister and her hubby run a kennels and dogs can be left for the day, and people ring up to see how they are doing. It may have been a tragedy but it still needs to be investigated also it looks like she was estranged from the father so there may be a revenge element if he took up with someone else....