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arista 13-11-2019 03:06 PM

Unions call it a Outrage : HighCourt Judge Stops Royal Mail Strike
 
I mean in December it would effect
Post Voters and the Results.......................

The High Court Judge
was Correct to stop a December Strike
from Royal Mail Workers

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-mai...rikes-11860428

LeatherTrumpet 13-11-2019 03:40 PM

Great news like public transport drivers they should be instantly vsacked if they go on strike

Kizzy 13-11-2019 09:16 PM

But it isn't public any longer it's a private company so how?

LeatherTrumpet 14-11-2019 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10711193)
But it isn't public any longer it's a private company so how?

Any public service provider. Instant dismissal. The reason they strike is because of that, not because they are being ill treated. Nasty, greedy .

Kizzy 14-11-2019 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711281)
Any public service provider. Instant dismissal. The reason they strike is because of that, not because they are being ill treated. Nasty, greedy .

It's not a public service though.

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711281)
Any public service provider. Instant dismissal. The reason they strike is because of that, not because they are being ill treated. Nasty, greedy .

So sorry to hear views like this from you Mr Trumpet, Mrs Grim Reaper has always said good things about you but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about on this issue. Absolutely nothing to do with greed it's about some grubby little bastard who's sat in his palace in Switzerland trying to sink all Royal Mails standards and commitment to the 6 day universal service to the bottom of the swamp. Rico Back trashed the German postal service and has come to do the same here. Also the court ruling is an absolute farce caused by obvious political pressure and I should point out that the ballot of RM staff took place weeks before any date for general election being announced, and by the way the ballot was the biggest turn out and yes vote of any Union action in the country so what makes it right for all our votes to be dismissed and we be forced to comply with the wishes of some bastard who can't even be bothered to be personally present at negotiations! Just saying and nice to meet you! :fist:

bitontheslide 14-11-2019 11:47 AM

i've got my polling day card, so they can strike if they like now :smug:

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10711068)
I mean in December it would effect
Post Voters and the Results.......................

The High Court Judge
was Correct to stop a December Strike
from Royal Mail Workers

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-mai...rikes-11860428

Hi Arista
The ballot for this strike was taken way before any general election was announced and got the biggest turn out and yes vote ever! Nobody votes for strike action lightly don't forget none of us get paid during a strike!

Kizzy 14-11-2019 12:01 PM

I hope they appeal, what is the point of having rights and organisations to protect those rights when private enterprise can take court action to have those rights overruled?

LeatherTrumpet 14-11-2019 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711441)
Hi Arista
The ballot for this strike was taken way before any general election was announced and got the biggest turn out and yes vote ever! Nobody votes for strike action lightly don't forget none of us get paid during a strike!

"The judge agreed with the company's lawyers that members were “encouraged” to intercept their ballot papers at work and vote immediately for the 'yes' option, rather than at home away from any pressure. "

:/

DT

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711479)
"The judge agreed with the company's lawyers that members were “encouraged” to intercept their ballot papers at work and vote immediately for the 'yes' option, rather than at home away from any pressure. "

:/

DT

That is the biggest load of toss I've ever heard any one have the neck to claim as a viable reason! Firstly not all that many posties work in their own delivery offices and second I actually do work in my office and I pick up my own mail everyday.. I took my ballot paper home and made my vote with Mrs Reaper present and with her consent I might add!

LeatherTrumpet 14-11-2019 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711576)
That is the biggest load of toss I've ever heard any one have the neck to claim as a viable reason! Firstly not all that many posties work in their own delivery offices and second I actually do work in my office and I pick up my own mail everyday.. I took my ballot paper home and made my vote with Mrs Reaper present and with her consent I might add!

well thankfully the high court judge based his ruling on more than one anecdotal sliver of evidence

Twosugars 14-11-2019 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711433)
So sorry to hear views like this from you Mr Trumpet, Mrs Grim Reaper has always said good things about you but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about on this issue. Absolutely nothing to do with greed it's about some grubby little bastard who's sat in his palace in Switzerland trying to sink all Royal Mails standards and commitment to the 6 day universal service to the bottom of the swamp. Rico Back trashed the German postal service and has come to do the same here. Also the court ruling is an absolute farce caused by obvious political pressure and I should point out that the ballot of RM staff took place weeks before any date for general election being announced, and by the way the ballot was the biggest turn out and yes vote of any Union action in the country so what makes it right for all our votes to be dismissed and we be forced to comply with the wishes of some bastard who can't even be bothered to be personally present at negotiations! Just saying and nice to meet you! :fist:

More or less what my postie told me on this issue.

Well done Grim for standing up! And good luck in future actions

arista 14-11-2019 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711441)
Hi Arista
The ballot for this strike was taken way before any general election was announced and got the biggest turn out and yes vote ever! Nobody votes for strike action lightly don't forget none of us get paid during a strike!


Yes but because it was set for December
The High Court was brought in.

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10711602)
Yes but because it was set for December
The High Court was brought in.

So any dispute can only be acted on so long as it doesn't disrupt Santa, leave it out? Do you know us Posties get to watch a video (are forced to watch) from the bosses and last week they said they would respect the vote and keep it live, meaning we wouldn't have to ballot again, so long as the threat to strike was taken off till after xmas. In other words they had no problem with any so called voting discrepencies and basically if we still wanted to strike after xmas when no one gives a **** that would be ok!!

hijaxers 14-11-2019 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711281)
Any public service provider. Instant dismissal. The reason they strike is because of that, not because they are being ill treated. Nasty, greedy .

What complete utter tripe LT shame on you

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711584)
well thankfully the high court judge based his ruling on more than one anecdotal sliver of evidence

Oh yeah instead they based it on some concocted bollocks from a nameless RM manager who is no doubt being well renumerated for his completely unsubstantiated evidence! You might not give a **** about your postal service in Scotland but we do down here mate!

LeatherTrumpet 14-11-2019 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711739)
Oh yeah instead they based it on some concocted bollocks from a nameless RM manager who is no doubt being well renumerated for his completely unsubstantiated evidence! You might not give a **** about your postal service in Scotland but we do down here mate!

im afraid the High Court does not work that way, i would try not to listen to gossip at work and read the detailed ruling and evidence (its online)

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711751)
im afraid the High Court does not work that way, i would try not to listen to gossip at work and read the detailed ruling and evidence (its online)

Look I'm sorry to have to argue with you but you still don't get it (and I do know the details thanks), here some more details for you.. 110'000 people were balloted with a 76% turn out and a 97% yes vote which makes 81.0982 people voted yes. Not one person over the seven weeks since the ballot made any complaint to the overseeing authorities about being coerced into making a vote one way or the other. Royal Mail have clearly 'incentivized' some compliant twat manager to make up ****e that can't be proven and due to the political pressure that has been exerted upon the laughably impartial judicial system they decided to take that fake evidence as opposed to the opinions of nearly 82'000 other people...sounds like proper justice to me!

hijaxers 14-11-2019 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711751)
im afraid the High Court does not work that way, i would try not to listen to gossip at work and read the detailed ruling and evidence (its online)

Gossip at work ~ clueless

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10711785)
Gossip at work ~ clueless

So right hijaxers for one thing I haven't even been at work to listen to gossip today and even if I had been we barely get time to talk to each other it's that pressurised! I don't know what/who you work for Trumpet but don't expect any help when you need it, s'pose you're just worried about not receiving your fan mail!

Twosugars 14-11-2019 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711281)
Any public service provider. Instant dismissal. The reason they strike is because of that, not because they are being ill treated. Nasty, greedy .

What do you know about working conditions in companies privatised by tories?

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10711795)
What do you know about working conditions in companies privatised by tories?

Nice one Twosugars thank god somebody else gets it!

Twosugars 14-11-2019 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711796)
Nice one Twosugars thank god somebody else gets it!

I chat to my postie often enough. It's a disgrace what they're doing to you guys.
Stand strong.

AnnieK 14-11-2019 08:19 PM

To be fair, Royal Mail / Post Office have always been the same. I remember when I was a kid my mum worked for Post Office and my Dad for BT, both were out on strike at the same time...dad was out for weeks. It crippled them financially and took years to recover from. No one takes strike action lightly when it directly impacts them and their families. This high court action seems to be a death knoll for the Unions if voted for actions can be over turned. We are all going to be minions soon. Sorry you're going through this Grim and Mrs Grim


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