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Beso 10-06-2020 02:28 PM

34 out of 54 African nations dont allow same sex relationships.
 
All sorts of stories about this, police torturing people for confessions..people being necklaced.


Should the world demand change in these countries?

Should British born people of African origin be airing this more for public debate?

Smithy 10-06-2020 02:30 PM

1. Yes
2. What?

MB. 10-06-2020 02:30 PM

You mean the homophobic values we imposed on our colonies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cy-colonialism

Beso 10-06-2020 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10860140)
You mean the homophobic values we imposed on our colonies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cy-colonialism

Uganda is laughable considering what they done with their indian population under idi Amin

MB. 10-06-2020 02:39 PM

Germany is laughable considering what they done with their Jewish population under Hitler

Your point being?

Samm 10-06-2020 02:44 PM

If you would of actually bothered to research into this topic, you would find as a user posted above it’s mostly at fault of the British Empire and other colonisers that imposed these social values.

But of course you didn’t. It was just an attempt to cause some friction on a forum where a good majority of its posters are LGBT! Nice try though! :pat:

Jessica. 10-06-2020 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10860140)
You mean the homophobic values we imposed on our colonies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cy-colonialism

:skull:

Cherie 10-06-2020 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10860154)
If you would of actually bothered to research into this topic, you would find as a user posted above it’s mostly at fault of the British Empire and other colonisers that imposed these social values.

But of course you didn’t. It was just an attempt to cause some friction on a forum where a good majority of its posters are LGBT! Nice try though! :pat:

They aren't under British rule now though so change can happen?

Oliver_W 10-06-2020 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10860140)
You mean the homophobic values we imposed on our colonies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cy-colonialism

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10860154)
If you would of actually bothered to research into this topic, you would find as a user posted above it’s mostly at fault of the British Empire and other colonisers that imposed these social values.

But of course you didn’t. It was just an attempt to cause some friction on a forum where a good majority of its posters are LGBT! Nice try though! :pat:

Then I guess it's lucky how much of the rest of the world (including the people who live in the place that started the British Empire) have grown up and moved on.

MB. 10-06-2020 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10860157)
They aren't under British rule now though so change can happen?

Because we did such a thorough job of forcing our Christian values upon them that homophobia has, in most cases, become both culturally ingrained and enshrined in law

That's like saying "well America hasn't been under British rule for three hundred years so why do they still speak English?"

Beso 10-06-2020 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10860154)
If you would of actually bothered to research into this topic, you would find as a user posted above it’s mostly at fault of the British Empire and other colonisers that imposed these social values.

But of course you didn’t. It was just an attempt to cause some friction on a forum where a good majority of its posters are LGBT! Nice try though! :pat:




I'm afraid they have continued it whilst we have rightly moved on...

Dont you think they should be challenged on it by the rest of the world?

MB. 10-06-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10860160)
Then I guess it's lucky how much of the rest of the world (including the people who live in the place that started the British Empire) have grown up and moved on.

Britain could have "grown up and moved on" from its love for colonial-era racism but we haven't

Cherie 10-06-2020 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10860161)
Because we did such a thorough job of forcing our Christian values upon them that homophobia has, in most cases, become both culturally ingrained and enshrined in law

That's like saying "well America hasn't been under British rule for three hundred years so why do they still speak English?"

that's a weird comparison, changing a countries language would be kinda crazy

laws on the other hand can be changed and countries can move on, look at Ireland in the 80s it was a Bastion of Catholicism, not any more due to progressive governments?

Oliver_W 10-06-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10860163)
Britain could have "grown up and moved on" from its love for colonial-era racism but we haven't

Even if that were true, it doesn't mean those 34 African nations shouldn't have moved on from their homophobia.

Samm 10-06-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10860162)
I'm afraid they have continued it whilst we have rightly moved on...

Dont you think they should be challenged on it by the rest of the world?

MB has explained that already.

We haven't "moved on" either, yes we have gay marriage and gay adaption but homophobia is still apparent in the UK and the western world. If you're not homosexual you can't say "we've moved on".

Samm 10-06-2020 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10860165)
that's a weird comparison, changing a countries language would be kinda crazy

laws on the other hand can be changed and countries can move on, look at Ireland in the 80s it was a Bastion of Catholicism, not any more due to progressive governments?

Some governments in Africa are corrupt due to the state we and the rest of the world left them in.

Beso 10-06-2020 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10860168)
MB has explained that already.

We haven't "moved on" either, yes we have gay marriage and gay adaption but homophobia is still apparent in the UK and the western world. If you're not homosexual you can't say "we've moved on".




So do you think they should be challenged on their outdated laws that ban same sex relationships or not?

Cause Britain has ended its ban on same sex relationships years ago...shouldn't we now be challenging other countries to do the same.!

Oliver_W 10-06-2020 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10860168)
MB has explained that already.

We haven't "moved on" either, yes we have gay marriage and gay adaption but homophobia is still apparent in the UK and the western world. If you're not homosexual you can't say "we've moved on".

I'm gay and I've never had any real problems :shrug: like sure there are some dickheads out there, but we're generally at the point where no-one gives a flying monkeys.

Tom4784 10-06-2020 03:20 PM

Homohobia is no more, a straight person on a BB forum said so, the world has moved on!

Beso 10-06-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10860178)
Homohobia is no more, a straight person on a BB forum said so, the world has moved on!

I'm sure I said the exact opposite to that.

Jigs 10-06-2020 03:25 PM

Many African and Native American civilizations always welcomed third genders, ambiguous gender norms and same-sex relations. That was, of course, until they were colonized and Christian values were imposed on them by their white rulers.

It's our fault things like this are still happening so I guess to answer your question, yes, we should all be speaking up about it way more!

Tom4784 10-06-2020 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10860173)
I'm gay and I've never had any real problems :shrug: like sure there are some dickheads out there, but we're generally at the point where no-one gives a flying monkeys.

You're incredibly lucky and ultimately an outlier rather than the norm. Things are better than they used to be but there is always danger, there's always a need to be careful in public, to consider who might potentially start a situation that could lead to violence if you even try to hold the hand of someone of the same sex.

I'm bi, I know how things are different when I'm with a woman and when I'm with a man. It's different in a same sex relationship, you can't be as open as you could if you were with a woman, you've got to consider people around you and be careful. I've never felt in danger with a woman but I certainly have if I've gone anywhere with a man.

Bisexuals are unique in that regard, we get to experience the differences and know how the world changes when it thinks we're straight or gay (because bisexual isn't an option until you tell someone you are and then you have to deal with potential biphobia).

Jake. 10-06-2020 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10860173)
I'm gay and I've never had any real problems :shrug: like sure there are some dickheads out there, but we're generally at the point where no-one gives a flying monkeys.

Sorry but that’s really not the case.

Oliver_W 10-06-2020 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigs (Post 10860190)
That was, of course, until they were colonized and Christian values were imposed on them by their white rulers.

It's our fault things like this are still happening so I guess to answer your question, yes, we should all be speaking up about it way more!

That's like forgiving a rapist because his victim was wearing a short skirt.


It's not anyone's fault but the nations themselves, they've had more than enough time to sort out their homophobia.

Jigs 10-06-2020 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10860197)
That's like forgiving a rapist because his victim was wearing a short skirt.


It's not anyone's fault but the nations themselves, they've had more than enough time to sort out their homophobia.

I don't really know what to say to you. Go and tell them that then.


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