[parmnion]

All sorts of stories about this, police torturing people for confessions..people being necklaced.


Should the world demand change in these countries?

Should British born people of African origin be airing this more for public debate?

[Smithy]

1. Yes
2. What?

[MB.]

You mean the homophobic values we imposed on our colonies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cy-colonialism

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by MB.

You mean the homophobic values we imposed on our colonies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cy-colonialism

Uganda is laughable considering what they done with their indian population under idi Amin

[MB.]

Germany is laughable considering what they done with their Jewish population under Hitler

Your point being?

[Samm]

If you would of actually bothered to research into this topic, you would find as a user posted above it’s mostly at fault of the British Empire and other colonisers that imposed these social values.

But of course you didn’t. It was just an attempt to cause some friction on a forum where a good majority of its posters are LGBT! Nice try though!

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by MB.

You mean the homophobic values we imposed on our colonies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cy-colonialism

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Samm

If you would of actually bothered to research into this topic, you would find as a user posted above it’s mostly at fault of the British Empire and other colonisers that imposed these social values.

But of course you didn’t. It was just an attempt to cause some friction on a forum where a good majority of its posters are LGBT! Nice try though!

They aren't under British rule now though so change can happen?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MB.

You mean the homophobic values we imposed on our colonies?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cy-colonialism

Originally Posted by Samm

If you would of actually bothered to research into this topic, you would find as a user posted above it’s mostly at fault of the British Empire and other colonisers that imposed these social values.

But of course you didn’t. It was just an attempt to cause some friction on a forum where a good majority of its posters are LGBT! Nice try though!

Then I guess it's lucky how much of the rest of the world (including the people who live in the place that started the British Empire) have grown up and moved on.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They aren't under British rule now though so change can happen?

Because we did such a thorough job of forcing our Christian values upon them that homophobia has, in most cases, become both culturally ingrained and enshrined in law

That's like saying "well America hasn't been under British rule for three hundred years so why do they still speak English?"

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Samm

If you would of actually bothered to research into this topic, you would find as a user posted above it’s mostly at fault of the British Empire and other colonisers that imposed these social values.

But of course you didn’t. It was just an attempt to cause some friction on a forum where a good majority of its posters are LGBT! Nice try though!

I'm afraid they have continued it whilst we have rightly moved on...

Dont you think they should be challenged on it by the rest of the world?

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Then I guess it's lucky how much of the rest of the world (including the people who live in the place that started the British Empire) have grown up and moved on.

Britain could have "grown up and moved on" from its love for colonial-era racism but we haven't

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MB.

Because we did such a thorough job of forcing our Christian values upon them that homophobia has, in most cases, become both culturally ingrained and enshrined in law

That's like saying "well America hasn't been under British rule for three hundred years so why do they still speak English?"

that's a weird comparison, changing a countries language would be kinda crazy

laws on the other hand can be changed and countries can move on, look at Ireland in the 80s it was a Bastion of Catholicism, not any more due to progressive governments?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MB.

Britain could have "grown up and moved on" from its love for colonial-era racism but we haven't

Even if that were true, it doesn't mean those 34 African nations shouldn't have moved on from their homophobia.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm afraid they have continued it whilst we have rightly moved on...

Dont you think they should be challenged on it by the rest of the world?

MB has explained that already.

We haven't "moved on" either, yes we have gay marriage and gay adaption but homophobia is still apparent in the UK and the western world. If you're not homosexual you can't say "we've moved on".

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Cherie

that's a weird comparison, changing a countries language would be kinda crazy

laws on the other hand can be changed and countries can move on, look at Ireland in the 80s it was a Bastion of Catholicism, not any more due to progressive governments?

Some governments in Africa are corrupt due to the state we and the rest of the world left them in.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Samm

MB has explained that already.

We haven't "moved on" either, yes we have gay marriage and gay adaption but homophobia is still apparent in the UK and the western world. If you're not homosexual you can't say "we've moved on".

So do you think they should be challenged on their outdated laws that ban same sex relationships or not?

Cause Britain has ended its ban on same sex relationships years ago...shouldn't we now be challenging other countries to do the same.!

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Samm

MB has explained that already.

We haven't "moved on" either, yes we have gay marriage and gay adaption but homophobia is still apparent in the UK and the western world. If you're not homosexual you can't say "we've moved on".

I'm gay and I've never had any real problems like sure there are some dickheads out there, but we're generally at the point where no-one gives a flying monkeys.

[Tom4784]

Homohobia is no more, a straight person on a BB forum said so, the world has moved on!

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Homohobia is no more, a straight person on a BB forum said so, the world has moved on!

I'm sure I said the exact opposite to that.

[Jigs]

Many African and Native American civilizations always welcomed third genders, ambiguous gender norms and same-sex relations. That was, of course, until they were colonized and Christian values were imposed on them by their white rulers.

It's our fault things like this are still happening so I guess to answer your question, yes, we should all be speaking up about it way more!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm gay and I've never had any real problems like sure there are some dickheads out there, but we're generally at the point where no-one gives a flying monkeys.

You're incredibly lucky and ultimately an outlier rather than the norm. Things are better than they used to be but there is always danger, there's always a need to be careful in public, to consider who might potentially start a situation that could lead to violence if you even try to hold the hand of someone of the same sex.

I'm bi, I know how things are different when I'm with a woman and when I'm with a man. It's different in a same sex relationship, you can't be as open as you could if you were with a woman, you've got to consider people around you and be careful. I've never felt in danger with a woman but I certainly have if I've gone anywhere with a man.

Bisexuals are unique in that regard, we get to experience the differences and know how the world changes when it thinks we're straight or gay (because bisexual isn't an option until you tell someone you are and then you have to deal with potential biphobia).

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm gay and I've never had any real problems like sure there are some dickheads out there, but we're generally at the point where no-one gives a flying monkeys.

Sorry but that’s really not the case.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Jigs

That was, of course, until they were colonized and Christian values were imposed on them by their white rulers.

It's our fault things like this are still happening so I guess to answer your question, yes, we should all be speaking up about it way more!

That's like forgiving a rapist because his victim was wearing a short skirt.


It's not anyone's fault but the nations themselves, they've had more than enough time to sort out their homophobia.

[Jigs]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That's like forgiving a rapist because his victim was wearing a short skirt.


It's not anyone's fault but the nations themselves, they've had more than enough time to sort out their homophobia.

I don't really know what to say to you. Go and tell them that then.