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bitontheslide 29-10-2020 09:04 AM

Labour Party broke equality laws
 
Labour Party was responsible for anti-Semitic discrimination and broke equality laws, human rights watchdog rules

Breaking news https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425

arista 29-10-2020 10:03 AM

Yes some now
want Corbyn removed from the Party

arista 29-10-2020 10:15 AM

The Labour Leader is Live

All media.


ITV1 News asked should the Former Leader still be in the party?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10...3966312992.jpg

arista 29-10-2020 10:29 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10...3969269887.jpg

LeatherTrumpet 29-10-2020 10:32 AM

Note his mask is not on properly so he may have infected that lady with him.

arista 29-10-2020 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10942186)
Note his mask is not on properly so he may have infected that lady with him.

Thats his Wife
as they leave their home.

joeysteele 29-10-2020 10:38 AM

I have always detested antisemitism.

I also did indicate I felt it wasn't riddled with it.
However,
This report actually is worse than even I though it would be.

Obviously I'm looking at these findings which highlight shocking and shameful instances which have badly affected past and present Labour MPs, members and voters too.

It is clearly not overexaggerated as many had claimed.

This is a disgraceful account of anti-Semitic instances in the Party.
Which the leadership and also that we as members failed to address.

It was once said atrociously to me, on here, my saying I had Jewish friends was like a racist saying he had black friends.
Not that anyone said anything about that being too personal to me.

I HAVE had Jewish friends from my childhood.
I would never support anti-Semitism in any shape or form.

I will wait to see what Starmer will be saying ongoing from this.
I do get the feeling, that Jewish leaders and communities feel Starmer has started well on this issue.
However starting well, is not enough.
Rapid action to clear out any who are anti-Semitic and all past dismissed cases looked at again too.

I believe Starmer has said this is a day of shame for Labour.
He HAS to ensure ALL who presided over this, who allowed it to continue, and particularly who now still claim over-exaggeration are held to account for where they have brought the Party to today.

No excuses from me, I've never ever set out to make any.
These findings are worse than I believed they would be.

Now, I need to personally consider my own thinking and relation to the Party.
A lot now depends on really how Starmer handles this now, how he addresses the intense hurt to long held Jewish members and MPs too.
More though, how he now sets about dealing with those who presided over this hateful discrimination.

There can be no place in Labour,nor should there be for anyone, no matter their position, past and present, who will still set out to diminish or dismiss these findings.

Starmer was in the Shadow Cabinet, he has to now completely disinfect himself from this hurtful tragic hurt of discrimination against Jewish MPs and members.
Also to show relentless pursuit of any holding any antisemitic views in Labour.
He needs to do that, for himself, the MPs now, the Party and its members, plus past MPs driven out, also Jewish voters whether Labour ones or not.

I am really saddened but even moreso annoyed.
The past leader assured all was being done, while it was allowed to get stronger.
That's shocking.
Absolutely shocking to have dismissed those genuinely concerned about anti-Semitism.
Absolutely shocking.

This is bad.

parmnion 29-10-2020 10:40 AM

I wonder if that con mp who was called scum by the labour mp was Jewish?

The Slim Reaper 29-10-2020 10:46 AM

I need to read the whole thing before I give any full comments on the report. However, It was always accepted that anti semitism exists in labour, just like society as a whole. My only issue was that it was being weaponised against the man who was an anti racist campaigner all his life, and who was counter protesting neo-nazi's in Jewish London boroughs before most of us were born.

All of this in service of a conservative leader that wrote a book full of anti semitic tropes and stereotypes, caused a 375% spike in hate crimes against Muslims with Islamophobic comments, made racist comments against black people, and homophobic comments against gay people.

UserSince2005 29-10-2020 10:58 AM

scum

arista 29-10-2020 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10942200)
I need to read the whole thing before I give any full comments on the report. However, It was always accepted that anti semitism exists in labour, just like society as a whole. My only issue was that it was being weaponised against the man who was an anti racist campaigner all his life, and who was counter protesting neo-nazi's in Jewish London boroughs before most of us were born.

All of this in service of a conservative leader that wrote a book full of anti semitic tropes and stereotypes, caused a 375% spike in hate crimes against Muslims with Islamophobic comments, made racist comments against black people, and homophobic comments against gay people.

Forgive me if I don't take seriously the posters in this thread who are openly posting bigoted stuff in other threads at the same time as posting in here.


The Report
is 3 Breaches
Political Interference in the Labour Party

arista 29-10-2020 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10942211)
scum


Do you Mean Old Corbyn

The Slim Reaper 29-10-2020 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10942213)
The Report
is 3 Breaches
Political Interference in the Labour Party

Well that's cleared it all up. Thanks.

UserSince2005 29-10-2020 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10942214)
Do you Mean Old Corbyn

labour affiliates in general

arista 29-10-2020 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10942217)
Well that's cleared it all up. Thanks.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10...3971890686.jpg

LeatherTrumpet 29-10-2020 11:08 AM

Its why the GBP did not vote for him

They can tell a wrong un and they did

bitontheslide 29-10-2020 11:17 AM

The EHRC report found the Labour Party responsible for three breaches of the Equality Act, namely:

Political interference in anti-Semitism complaints
Failure to provide adequate training to those handling anti-Semitism complaints
Harassment
In a statement, it said: "The equality body's analysis points to a culture within the party which, at best, did not do enough to prevent anti-Semitism and, at worst, could be seen to accept it."

The investigation found evidence of 23 instances of "inappropriate involvement" by Mr Corbyn's office, included staff influencing decisions on suspensions or whether to investigate a claim.

Some decisions, said the watchdog, were made because of "likely press interest rather than any formal criteria", and the party "adopted a practice of political interference".

The EHRC said the party's complaints process was inconsistent and lacking in transparency", with the email inbox "largely left unmonitored for a number of years" and "no action taken on the majority of complaints forwarded to it".

The watchdog said there had been recent improvements to the procedures, but the system was still "under-resourced and those responsible for it are not trained to the necessary standard".

The report also said the party was responsible for two cases of unlawful harassment, where anti-Semitic tropes were used and complaints were branded fake or smears.

It named former Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, and a local councillor, Pam Bromley, but said these were "only the tip of the iceberg", and a further 18 borderline cases were found.

Mr Livingstone later released a statement, he was "deeply hurt" by the accusations and "fully rejects" them, calling himself a "life-long anti-racist".

The Slim Reaper 29-10-2020 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10942248)
The EHRC report found the Labour Party responsible for three breaches of the Equality Act, namely:

Political interference in anti-Semitism complaints
Failure to provide adequate training to those handling anti-Semitism complaints
Harassment
In a statement, it said: "The equality body's analysis points to a culture within the party which, at best, did not do enough to prevent anti-Semitism and, at worst, could be seen to accept it."

The investigation found evidence of 23 instances of "inappropriate involvement" by Mr Corbyn's office, included staff influencing decisions on suspensions or whether to investigate a claim.

Some decisions, said the watchdog, were made because of "likely press interest rather than any formal criteria", and the party "adopted a practice of political interference".

The EHRC said the party's complaints process was inconsistent and lacking in transparency", with the email inbox "largely left unmonitored for a number of years" and "no action taken on the majority of complaints forwarded to it".

The watchdog said there had been recent improvements to the procedures, but the system was still "under-resourced and those responsible for it are not trained to the necessary standard".

The report also said the party was responsible for two cases of unlawful harassment, where anti-Semitic tropes were used and complaints were branded fake or smears.

It named former Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, and a local councillor, Pam Bromley, but said these were "only the tip of the iceberg", and a further 18 borderline cases were found.

Mr Livingstone later released a statement, he was "deeply hurt" by the accusations and "fully rejects" them, calling himself a "life-long anti-racist".

Labour, under Starmers stewardship did their own report, which was leaked back in April. It showed clearly this was a tactic by the right of the party to undermine the left of the party.

https://www.counterfire.org/articles...aged-the-party

https://novaramedia.com/2020/04/12/i...igned-to-lose/

arista 29-10-2020 11:39 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10...3969269872.jpg
Back in Sept 2019 Luciana Berger MP
ended up joining the LibDems. (But voted out)
After joining the Failed/Pathetic Indie Party Group
(washed away at the General Election)

The Slim Reaper 29-10-2020 11:57 AM

What I will say, is that Corbyn should have just said he accepted the findings. There are days ahead to put individual points across, but today shouldn't have been one of them as the former leader.

arista 29-10-2020 12:12 PM

Corbyn on SkyNewsHD
is staying put.

He said he brought in the measures that are
helping this enquiry.


His Whip has been removed
Now Suspended from Labour


Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour party
https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-co...party-12117833

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425

parmnion 29-10-2020 12:15 PM

Whens spitting image on next?

The Slim Reaper 29-10-2020 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10942300)
Corbyn on SkyNewsHD
is staying put.

He said he brought in the measures that are
helping this enquiry.


His Whip has been removed
Now Suspended from Labour

And there goes starmers chance of ever being PM, unfortunately.

arista 29-10-2020 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10942301)
Whens spitting image on next?


Saturday
but on BritBox only

bitontheslide 29-10-2020 12:16 PM

Corbyn has been suspended from the labour party and whip removed


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