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arista 19-02-2021 09:07 AM

Uber loses Supreme Court battle on drivers' rights in gig economy test
 
[Following a lengthy legal fight,
the UK's highest court ruled against
the taxi app firm and concluded drivers
should be classed as workers,
not independent third-party contractors,
which means they are entitled to basic
employment protections,
including minimum wage and holiday pay.]


https://news.sky.com/story/uber-lose...-test-12222531


If Uber keep this ruling
prices will go up.



James O'Brien
on LBC interviewed the Irish Uber London Driver
who was assaulted
but UBER would not help him.
He brought this case a long time ago.


arista 19-02-2021 09:47 AM


Oliver_W 19-02-2021 09:50 AM

Support local cab firms instead of a huge international company.

Cherie 19-02-2021 09:55 AM

That’s insane that they wouldn’t identify the assailant

arista 19-02-2021 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11003534)
That’s insane that they wouldn’t identify the assailant



Yes they should have helped that Driver.
It would have not ended like today's ruling.

user104658 19-02-2021 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11003527)
Support local cab firms instead of a huge international company.

I don't necessarily DISagree with this, however I think smaller cab companies need to "get with the times" in terms of technology, i.e. booking via app and location tracking.

There's no reason that a large company structure is needed for this these days. An app developer could easily make an app that any small cab company could use (even individual self-employed drivers). Being able to book and track your taxi via app is just far, far more convenient than phone call + cash... I can't see any reason for taking a backwards step and doing it "the old way" is only going to become more and more outdated, especially as we're not all that far from "in city" cabs not having drivers at all.

Oliver_W 19-02-2021 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11003540)
I don't necessarily DISagree with this, however I think smaller cab companies need to "get with the times" in terms of technology, i.e. booking via app and location tracking.

There's no reason that a large company structure is needed for this these days. An app developer could easily make an app that any small cab company could use (even individual self-employed drivers). Being able to book and track your taxi via app is just far, far more convenient than phone call + cash... I can't see any reason for taking a backwards step and doing it "the old way" is only going to become more and more outdated, especially as we're not all that far from "in city" cabs not having drivers at all.

True. Most of my local firms have their own apps now, or at least a website which basically looks identical to an app when used on phone!

UserSince2005 19-02-2021 10:35 AM

Uber as it is must be lucrative for the drivers otherwise there wouldnt be so many of them.

If they want benefits of employment then they should go work for another company.

They should be paid less on their new contracts to make up for these new benefits.

user104658 19-02-2021 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11003545)
Uber as it is must be lucrative for the drivers otherwise there wouldnt be so many of them.

If they want benefits of employment then they should go work for another company.

They should be paid less on their new contracts to make up for these new benefits.

I do think it's complicated and something that needs consideration, because - for example - a lot of drivers are supplementing other income, and it's not really as possible (or at least as easy) to do that on an employee basis. It's a double-edged sword in that, yes, you get the mandatory protections, guaranteed minimum wage, paid vacation and sick leave etc. but the other side of it is potentially having a mandatory minimum hours you'd be expected to work in a week, shift patterns set by a manager, etc... things that not everyone wants in a second income. Although, they could work it like the "bank staff" system in healthcare, where available blocks/shifts are advertised for the area and people can pick them up in whatever way suits them best.

smudgie 19-02-2021 11:13 AM

Brilliant.
These drivers should have the same rights as the rest of us.

bots 19-02-2021 12:09 PM

i think it was the wrong decision from a consumer perspective and will affect prices significantly

Samm 19-02-2021 12:19 PM

everyone worker deserves holiday pay and workers rights lol, good move

arista 19-02-2021 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 11003618)
everyone worker deserves holiday pay and workers rights lol, good move



Sure
But some Companies may leave the UK


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...6_img_7524.jpg
[Former Uber drivers James Farrar and
Yaseen Aslam pose in front of the Supreme Court on Friday]

arista 20-02-2021 12:33 AM

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