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Tom4784 22-05-2021 09:14 PM
Texas is trying to ban and obscure the teaching of Slavery in Schools
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/20/u...6-project.html

Basically a bunch of Right Wing led states are trying to ban the darker parts of US history being taught in school and Texas is one of the biggest ones to attempt it which is bad news considering they drive much of the textbook industry.

A bunch of white snowflakes simply can't handle that the history of their country is one mired in blood and racism and want to rewrite history to shove the uncomfortable parts under the table. Why is the right wing so scared of facts? It's honestly pathetic.

If you censor or ignore the uncomfortable parts of history, you're doomed to repeat it.

arista 22-05-2021 09:15 PM
Typical of that state.

Crimson Dynamo 22-05-2021 09:21 PM
Love the Lone Star State

Tom4784 22-05-2021 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11049241)
Typical of that state.
Not just that state, there's others that have passed or are in the process of passing such laws.

All of which are typically right wing, no surprise there.

Beso 22-05-2021 10:16 PM
It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

AnnieK 22-05-2021 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049292)
It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.
If that's how you think, we have to erase all of our own history.

We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not erase them and pretend they didn't happen.

Beso 22-05-2021 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11049297)
If that's how you think, we have to erase all of our own history.

We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not erase them and pretend they didn't happen.
We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.

Beso 22-05-2021 10:28 PM
Tough ask, with the net, but I can dream.

AnnieK 22-05-2021 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049301)
We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.
Why not? We all studied history....our grandparents fought and in some cases died so we have a history to discuss. Our past dictates our present and future.

To know the mistakes makes us sure we don't (hopefully) repeat them

Beso 22-05-2021 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11049306)
Why not? We all studied history....our grandparents fought and in some cases died so we have a history to discuss. Our past dictates our present and future.

To know the mistakes makes us sure we don't (hopefully) repeat them
The world is not in a position for it to repeat itself in regards to the white on black slavery story.

It will never happen again. To mention it, and to teach it. Well, I think it will only bring hate, or hate or hate.

Jake. 22-05-2021 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049292)
It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.
Best just scrapping history altogether then?

Beso 22-05-2021 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 11049338)
Best just scrapping history altogether then?
Yep

AnnieK 22-05-2021 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049310)
The world is not in a position for it to repeat itself in regards to the white on black slavery story.

It will never happen again. To mention it, and to teach it. Well, I think it will only bring hate, or hate or hate.
But then why is there still racism? To eradicate it from history will not teach our children to not hate. If there was no prejudice I could possibly see where you're coming from but as there still is, we need to teach kids where it comes from and why it's wrong.

Beso 22-05-2021 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11049365)
But then why is there still racism? To eradicate it from history will not teach our children to not hate. If there was no prejudice I could possibly see where you're coming from but as there still is, we need to teach kids where it comes from and why it's wrong.
There's still racism because we still teach history in schools.:shrug:

We've all seen those pictures of kids of all colours holding hands on billboards.

That's what we need to be teaching, not our history. Our history is all about division and war, and in the main only taken at secondary levels for the school trips. School trips to castles, or Auschwitz..or any other negative devisive memory from our shameful past.

Ban history from school, that's what I think..get a compass and take up geography.

AnnieK 22-05-2021 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049372)
There's still racism because we still teach history on schools.:shrug:

We've all seen those pictures of kids of all colours holding hands on billboards.

That's what we need to be teaching, not our history. Our history is all about division and war, and in the main only taken at secondary levels for the school trips. School trips to castles, or Auschwitz..or any other negative devisive memory from our shameful past.

Ban history from school, that's what I think..get a compass and take up geography.
Auschwitz? You want to eradicate what happened there? Pretend that millions of Jews, homosexuals, disabled people weren't murdered by the Germans? Do we pretend apartheid didn't happen in South Africa? What will that help?

You've been championing Israel lately, you think they want the suffering of the Jews erased in WW2? You want all those millions to have died and.now we don't tell the furore generations about their suffering? Its not just black and white history, if you stop teaching kids about the horrors that their ancestors faced to give them the present/future they have

Niamh. 22-05-2021 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11049376)
Auschwitz? You want to eradicate what happened there? Pretend that millions of Jews, homosexuals, disabled people weren't murdered by the Germans? Do we pretend apartheid didn't happen in South Africa? What will that help?



You've been championing Israel lately, you think they want the suffering of the Jews erased in WW2? You want all those millions to have died and.now we don't tell the furore generations about their suffering? Its not just black and white history, if you stop teaching kids about the horrors that their ancestors faced to give them the present/future they have
Only some history should be erased.....

Beso 22-05-2021 11:29 PM
Kids should, and do, judge people for themselves, without any pre conceived ideas put in their heads.


So yes, we dont need our kids taught about all that horrid nasty stuff.



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Beso 22-05-2021 11:32 PM
Daft argument annie considering you are probably up for taking down statues.

Liam- 22-05-2021 11:38 PM
Yet those people would have a fit if they were told to stop talking about 9/11

AnnieK 23-05-2021 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049383)
Daft argument annie considering you are probably up for taking down statues.
I've never once commented on that, but you put words in my mouth if you want.:shrug:

My son will learn all about this. countries, and the world's history, good and bad, from me if school won't teach it because my grandad was a PoW and so earned me that right....

Jordan. 23-05-2021 12:35 AM
Clearly some people didn't even go to school let alone take history classes. There is zero benefits to be had in not teaching future generations mistakes of the past, unless you are for repeating said mistakes of course.

Marsh. 23-05-2021 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049301)
We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.
What a dumb comment.

"Don't need to teach future generations". Yeah, good plan. :rolleyes:

Marsh. 23-05-2021 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049372)
There's still racism because we still teach history in schools.:shrug:
Nope. No. No. :facepalm: I think maybe you could do with some history classes yourself.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049292)
It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.
But the same crowd that says that are the same people who defend statues of racists as having historical importance. Which is it?

Tom4784 23-05-2021 02:17 AM
The idea that racism exists only because we teach people about the history of racism is the most bat**** ignorant thing I've seen on here in a long while and that's saying something. It's literally taking bigotry and victim blaming the victims of it by saying 'You can't talk about your experiences or your ancestor's struggles because my feelings might get hurt because I don't like to be reminded that my race enslaved yours.'

People who would whitewash history because they don't like the reality of it need to toughen the **** up and accept the facts.


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