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arista 29-05-2021 11:36 AM

Education Sec: UK Schools Ensure Political Impartiality
 
"Over Israel -Palestinian Conflict"


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Oliver_W 29-05-2021 12:09 PM

Fair. Though the whole conflict would be better off being Section 28ed (if that can be a verb :joker: ) because why does it need to be talked about in schools? People chirruping on about "genocide" probably don't bother to mention how awful Hamas are, and everything they do to their own people.

Tom4784 29-05-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11052520)
Fair. Though the whole conflict would be better off being Section 28ed (if that can be a verb :joker: ) because why does it need to be talked about in schools? People chirruping on about "genocide" probably don't bother to mention how awful Hamas are, and everything they do to their own people.

'Genocide is okay as long as you're killing terrorists alongside all the innocent people. HAMAS are bad, so Israel are doing Palestinians a favour by freeing them.... from their lives.'

Oliver_W 29-05-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11052521)
'Genocide is okay as long as you're killing terrorists alongside all the innocent people. HAMAS are bad, so Israel are doing Palestinians a favour by freeing them.... from their lives.'

Neither side is good :shrug:

Calling it "genocide" doesn't paint a fully accurate picture when population growth in Palestine has been steadily growing since the 90s. If people could publicly talk about it without taking sides at all that'd be something, but the rise in antisemitism suggests people find that hard.

Tom4784 29-05-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11052527)
Neither side is good :shrug:

Calling it "genocide" doesn't paint a fully accurate picture when population growth in Palestine has been steadily growing since the 90s. If people could publicly talk about it without taking sides at all that'd be something, but the rise in antisemitism suggests people find that hard.

If you want to sit on the fence (while CLEARLY having a preference), then do so, but don't encourage people to do the same.

Israeli soldiers are regularly executing and abusing citizens while removing them from their homes and stripping them of their rights. You have isreali soldiers shooting upon mosques, throwing grenades at ambulances and treating people like animals that they can put down as you please and you're trying to make out that this isn't leading to genocide? Oh, to be naive.

Also, I see your attempt to equate criticising Israel to anti-semitism. To reduce such a serious thing as a way to silence criticism of a country abusing human rights is anti-semitic in itself.

arista 29-05-2021 01:08 PM

Dezzy in School Class
you can not Chuck in

"Israeli soldiers are regularly executing and abusing citizens"

You're just going cause a Division.
As a Teacher
you would get Fired.

Oliver_W 29-05-2021 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11052532)

Also, I see your attempt to equate criticising Israel to anti-semitism. To reduce such a serious thing as a way to silence criticism of a country abusing human rights is anti-semitic in itself.

The increase of antisemitism isn't coming from thin air.

Elliot 29-05-2021 01:42 PM

You can’t sit on the fence when people are dying. People need to be educated on the tragedies and war going on rn

bitontheslide 29-05-2021 01:59 PM

well if the countries in the middle east stopped trying to kill jews it would be a good start, no? or is that ok

LeatherTrumpet 29-05-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11052546)
well if the countries in the middle east stopped trying to kill jews it would be a good start, no? or is that ok

https://media1.giphy.com/media/26BRD...200w.webp&ct=g

Elliot 29-05-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11052546)
well if the countries in the middle east stopped trying to kill jews it would be a good start, no? or is that ok

Pls read a book

bitontheslide 29-05-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 11052569)
Pls read a book

please don't colour your judgement with left wing propaganda

Toy Soldier 29-05-2021 05:00 PM

The only answer IS the balanced answer - the battle is between the state of Israel and Hamas terrorists, and innocent civilians get caught in between and ****ed over without a second thought. Such is war.

Oliver_W 29-05-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 11052541)
You can’t sit on the fence when people are dying. People need to be educated on the tragedies and war going on rn

Then I guess we should talk all about how Hamas uses Palestinian people as human shields, and keeps and launches weapons from schools and hospitals.

Tom4784 29-05-2021 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11052540)
The increase of antisemitism isn't coming from thin air.

The anti-semitism has always been there, it's not a new thing and it's not a tool to silence criticism of Israel.

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11052651)
Then I guess we should talk all about how Hamas uses Palestinian people as human shields, and keeps and launches weapons from schools and hospitals.

This is interesting, you keep focusing on making out that palestinians are only being harmed by Hamas despite evidence to the contrary, you even completely cut out the the parts where I listed acts of violence towards innocent people by Israeli soldiers. Do you think ignoring parts of what I say will make your argument seem less like bull****? You keep pushing one narrative while completely ignoring a huge chunk of reality just because it puts a dent in what you are saying.

You can't ignore what Israel have done to the Palestinian people and how their apartheid and human rights abuse does nothing but feed the conflict they've created. Israel is not some vulnerable country in need of our protection and defense, it's a nuclear power and one of the biggest powers in the middle east. Palestine is a country without an official army and the continued raping and pillaging of the country is being justified by pointing out terrorism like it justifies the horrific human rights abuse that is taking place.

I brought this up before and people were too cowardly to argue against it and so I'll say it again. What would you have said if the UK went further against the IRA in the 80's? What if we occupied Parts of Ireland and forced people out of their homes? What if we forced people into essentially open air prisons based on nothing but the fact they're irish? Would we not be the bad guys if we used the excuse of terrorism to oppress and dominate Ireland? Terrorism does not justify war crimes, murder, and human rights abuse as a response.

Israel are not simply defending themselves, they are subjugating another country and inflicting horrible abuse upon them while claiming to be completely innocent. It will eventually get to the point where Israel and Nazi Germany will not be too different from each other.

Tom4784 29-05-2021 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11052595)
please don't colour your judgement with left wing propaganda

If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person in the world, Bots.

Liam- 29-05-2021 07:52 PM

In other words ‘please ignore all evidence of Israel’s wrongdoing’

Oliver_W 29-05-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11052697)
In other words ‘please ignore all evidence of Israel’s wrongdoing’

Just don't make it look like either side is fully innocent. Acknowledge Israel's wrongdoings and Hamas'.

bitontheslide 29-05-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11052696)
If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person in the world, Bots.

i wish you would stop with the constant insulting of members, it's very tiresome. How about you respect that people are entitled to have different opinions to your own

Liam- 29-05-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11052701)
Just don't make it look like either side is fully innocent. Acknowledge Israel's wrongdoings and Hamas'.

Is Hamas the whole of Palestine? Because they’re not just attacking Hamas are they? This ‘war’ is being presented as a war against terrorists by the Israel fan club, let’s not pretend that this hasn’t come after a long period of terror and dehumanisation against the people of Palestine.

Tom4784 29-05-2021 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11052703)
i wish you would stop with the constant insulting of members, it's very tiresome. How about you respect that people are entitled to have different opinions to your own

You can have an opinion, other people are free to disagree with that opinion, that's how freedom of speech works. It's not a ****ing shield to prevent people from responding to you.

Trying to make out that this is just a case of Israel trying to defend themselves from the evil palestinians is just foolish. Is Palestine occupying Israel? Are Israelis the constant victims of abuse by Palestinian armies? No, because they don't have any armies. Are israelis being forced out of their homes? No.

Israel aren't defending themselves, they're conquering Palestine while the right wing gaslights the world into thinking it's anti-semitic to call out Israel on their actions. You go on about 'left wing propaganda' while you gorge yourself silly on Right Wing propaganda and it's just beyond hypocritical.

DouglasS 29-05-2021 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11052710)
You can have an opinion, other people are free to disagree with that opinion, that's how freedom of speech works. It's not a ****ing shield to prevent people from responding to you.

Trying to make out that this is just a case of Israel trying to defend themselves from the evil palestinians is just foolish. Is Palestine occupying Israel? Are Israelis the constant victims of abuse by Palestinian armies? No, because they don't have any armies. Are israelis being forced out of their homes? No.

Israel aren't defending themselves, they're conquering Palestine while the right wing gaslights the world into thinking it's anti-semitic to call out Israel on their actions. You go on about 'left wing propaganda' while you gorge yourself silly on Right Wing propaganda and it's just beyond hypocritical.

Yes but Dezzy you direct things towards members making it personal almost every post. No one else really seems to do that :shrug:

You’ve done it to bots, they are not saying you’re not entitled to your opinion, they’re just asking you not to bring in personal attacks or them into the argument/disagreement

Tom4784 29-05-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11052713)
Yes but Dezzy you direct things towards members making it personal almost every post. No one else really seems to do that :shrug:

Funny joke.

Livia 31-05-2021 12:05 PM

Read through this thread, it'll give you some idea how the Education Secretary's request us going to play out. Antisemitism is justified for some who clearly believe Jews get everything they deserve regardless of the fact that they are British subjects and not Israelis. These are the same people who will remind us - not that we need reminding - all that not all Muslims are terrorists and worry for the safety of the Muslim community when n a bomb goes off. The same ones who label other people bigots and racists if they disagree with them in any way.

Liam- 31-05-2021 12:07 PM

You might need to brush up on your reading comprehension if that’s genuinely what you believe you’ve read, but I’m going to hazard a guess and say that it’s not


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