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arista 16-11-2022 11:07 AM

Jeremy Corbyn will Never Stand for Labour again, says Starmer
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...senior-figures


They have Padlocked him out, Slim


[Jeremy Corbyn will never be permitted
to stand as a Labour MP at an election again,
senior Labour figures have said.
The former Labour leader was told
last year he had to apologise for
his claims that the extent of antisemitism
in the party had been “dramatically overstated”.

Keir Starmer has refused to restore
the whip to his predecessor,
effectively suspending him from
the parliamentary party, unless he does so.

However, the Guardian understands
that even if Corbyn does apologise
“unequivocally, unambiguously and
without reservation” the leadership
would be reluctant to let him return.
]

bots 16-11-2022 11:10 AM

it's been too long now, if you are going to apologise it has to be in a timely manner, not when you are about to lose your place on the gravy train

Oliver_W 16-11-2022 12:24 PM

Maybe he could start his own party, the British Workers Party? I'm sure he turn it into a national, socialist party.

Spoiler:

:hehe:

Oliver_W 16-11-2022 12:27 PM

But really ... does it matter? If his views are really so much at odds with what the Labour party is now, why would he want to be part of it? He's not going to change it, won't be its leader again ... why not go it alone, and stand for whatever he wants outside of the party?

Crimson Dynamo 16-11-2022 12:28 PM

He wont mind as he is ripping it up on Tiktok

https://i.gifer.com/origin/ec/ec89bd...cc546_w200.gif

The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11229512)
it's been too long now, if you are going to apologise it has to be in a timely manner, not when you are about to lose your place on the gravy train

He doesn't need to apologise. The true statement he made that he had the whip removed for, was a statement he pre-agreed with Starmer.

Personally, I don't really see this as an issue, as the labour party has been kicking out the left since Starmer started to go back on his pledges to attract tory Mp's and voters.

The new chief whip in labour was a tory MP not too long ago, famous for calling the whole labour party a bunch of C's.

Labour will win the next election, because the tories have collapsed in on themselves, but labour relying on the right for votes won't work out well for the party beyond the next GE.

The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11229546)
But really ... does it matter? If his views are really so much at odds with what the Labour party is now, why would he want to be part of it? He's not going to change it, won't be its leader again ... why not go it alone, and stand for whatever he wants outside of the party?

I agree, he should start his own party. We should have more parties offering different choices, so the voters get to hear all perspectives, even if they disagree with them.


Labour members voted for a platform of PR for the upcoming election, but Starmer won't allow that to stand. All I know is that 50-60 years of thatcherism isn't working, and 2 main parties promising more of the same, just means that the crumbling country and it's societal and landscape infrastructures will also remain the same.

Zizu 16-11-2022 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11229550)
I agree, he should start his own party. We should have more parties offering different choices, so the voters get to hear all perspectives, even if they disagree with them.


Labour members voted for a platform of PR for the upcoming election, but Starmer won't allow that to stand. All I know is that 50-60 years of thatcherism isn't working, and 2 main parties promising more of the same, just means that the crumbling country and it's societal and landscape infrastructures will also remain the same.


The only party I would vote for would have no politicians in it


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The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11229581)
The only party I would vote for would have no politicians in it


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You're a tory, aren't you?

Zizu 16-11-2022 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11229583)
You're a tory, aren't you?


I have zero affiliations … I just have a soft spot for Boris .. along with millions of others


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The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11229604)
I have zero affiliations … I just have a soft spot for Boris .. along with millions of others


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Did you vote for him?

Alf 16-11-2022 02:48 PM

If he'd have sided with Trump he'd have won.

Although not a particularly big fan of Trump, Corbyn's associate, George Galloway often sides with Trump. So I presume Corbyn does really, but he thought it would be a hinderence to him, he was wrong.

The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11229616)
If he'd have sided with Trump he'd have won.

Although not a particularly big fan of Trump, Corbyn's associate, George Galloway often sides with Trump. So I presume Corbyn does really, but he thought it would be a hinderence to him, he was wrong.

Galloway and Corbyn aren't allies, and losing with principles is perfectly fine. British people had their say and they wanted more isolation, austerity, and fewer rights, so that's democracy.

A democratic socialist has nothing in common to link him to a far right Trump, so why would he support him?

Zizu 16-11-2022 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11229608)
Did you vote for him?


Certainly not


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The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11229623)
Certainly not


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My mistake then. Apologies.

Alf 16-11-2022 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11229620)
Galloway and Corbyn aren't allies, and losing with principles is perfectly fine. British people had their say and they wanted more isolation, austerity, and fewer rights, so that's democracy.

A democratic socialist has nothing in common to link him to a far right Trump, so why would he support him?

Far-right is a funny description. You're making yourself look dumb.

Crimson Dynamo 16-11-2022 03:34 PM

The British public took one look at him cosying up with terrorist after terrorist

And said er no thanks

The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11229640)
Far-right is a funny description. You're making yourself look dumb.

How so?

Alf 16-11-2022 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11229656)
How so?

He's not far-right is he?

What's far-right about him?

jet 16-11-2022 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11229652)
The British public took one look at him cosying up with terrorist after terrorist

And said er no thanks

Got it in one LT :clap1:

The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11229658)
He's not far-right is he?

What's far-right about him?

Corporate protectionism, anti-immigrant, christian nationalism, are all pretty good indicators of a far right authoritarian. That's quick, without giving any real thought about some of the many scandals and law breaking that follow him around.

The Slim Reaper 16-11-2022 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 11229664)
Got it in one LT :clap1:

Don't forget the wreath incident.

Alf 16-11-2022 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11229666)
Corporate protectionism, anti-immigrant, christian nationalism, are all pretty good indicators of a far right authoritarian. That's quick, without giving any real thought about some of the many scandals and law breaking that follow him around.

He puts money in the people's pockets. He's a Christian but he isn't forcing it on anyone. His mother was an immigrant, he never stopped immigrants from entering, he just wants it done through a legal process, same as Australia do.

arista 06-12-2022 11:17 AM

Starmer has stated
he will Replace Corbyn with a new Labour MP
at the next Election.

Oliver_W 06-12-2022 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11237343)
Starmer has stated
he will Replace Corbyn with a new Labour MP
at the next Election.

Candidate, rather than MP. Corbyn might be voted in as an Independent. Depends if the people in his seat vote party or person.


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