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Old 16-11-2022, 11:07 AM #1
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Default Jeremy Corbyn will Never Stand for Labour again, says Starmer

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[Jeremy Corbyn will never be permitted
to stand as a Labour MP at an election again,
senior Labour figures have said.
The former Labour leader was told
last year he had to apologise for
his claims that the extent of antisemitism
in the party had been “dramatically overstated”.

Keir Starmer has refused to restore
the whip to his predecessor,
effectively suspending him from
the parliamentary party, unless he does so.

However, the Guardian understands
that even if Corbyn does apologise
“unequivocally, unambiguously and
without reservation” the leadership
would be reluctant to let him return.
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it's been too long now, if you are going to apologise it has to be in a timely manner, not when you are about to lose your place on the gravy train
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Maybe he could start his own party, the British Workers Party? I'm sure he turn it into a national, socialist party.

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But really ... does it matter? If his views are really so much at odds with what the Labour party is now, why would he want to be part of it? He's not going to change it, won't be its leader again ... why not go it alone, and stand for whatever he wants outside of the party?
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He wont mind as he is ripping it up on Tiktok

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it's been too long now, if you are going to apologise it has to be in a timely manner, not when you are about to lose your place on the gravy train
He doesn't need to apologise. The true statement he made that he had the whip removed for, was a statement he pre-agreed with Starmer.

Personally, I don't really see this as an issue, as the labour party has been kicking out the left since Starmer started to go back on his pledges to attract tory Mp's and voters.

The new chief whip in labour was a tory MP not too long ago, famous for calling the whole labour party a bunch of C's.

Labour will win the next election, because the tories have collapsed in on themselves, but labour relying on the right for votes won't work out well for the party beyond the next GE.
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But really ... does it matter? If his views are really so much at odds with what the Labour party is now, why would he want to be part of it? He's not going to change it, won't be its leader again ... why not go it alone, and stand for whatever he wants outside of the party?
I agree, he should start his own party. We should have more parties offering different choices, so the voters get to hear all perspectives, even if they disagree with them.


Labour members voted for a platform of PR for the upcoming election, but Starmer won't allow that to stand. All I know is that 50-60 years of thatcherism isn't working, and 2 main parties promising more of the same, just means that the crumbling country and it's societal and landscape infrastructures will also remain the same.
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I agree, he should start his own party. We should have more parties offering different choices, so the voters get to hear all perspectives, even if they disagree with them.


Labour members voted for a platform of PR for the upcoming election, but Starmer won't allow that to stand. All I know is that 50-60 years of thatcherism isn't working, and 2 main parties promising more of the same, just means that the crumbling country and it's societal and landscape infrastructures will also remain the same.

The only party I would vote for would have no politicians in it


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I have zero affiliations … I just have a soft spot for Boris .. along with millions of others


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If he'd have sided with Trump he'd have won.

Although not a particularly big fan of Trump, Corbyn's associate, George Galloway often sides with Trump. So I presume Corbyn does really, but he thought it would be a hinderence to him, he was wrong.
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If he'd have sided with Trump he'd have won.

Although not a particularly big fan of Trump, Corbyn's associate, George Galloway often sides with Trump. So I presume Corbyn does really, but he thought it would be a hinderence to him, he was wrong.
Galloway and Corbyn aren't allies, and losing with principles is perfectly fine. British people had their say and they wanted more isolation, austerity, and fewer rights, so that's democracy.

A democratic socialist has nothing in common to link him to a far right Trump, so why would he support him?
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Galloway and Corbyn aren't allies, and losing with principles is perfectly fine. British people had their say and they wanted more isolation, austerity, and fewer rights, so that's democracy.

A democratic socialist has nothing in common to link him to a far right Trump, so why would he support him?
Far-right is a funny description. You're making yourself look dumb.
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The British public took one look at him cosying up with terrorist after terrorist

And said er no thanks
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Far-right is a funny description. You're making yourself look dumb.
How so?
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How so?
He's not far-right is he?

What's far-right about him?
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He's not far-right is he?

What's far-right about him?
Corporate protectionism, anti-immigrant, christian nationalism, are all pretty good indicators of a far right authoritarian. That's quick, without giving any real thought about some of the many scandals and law breaking that follow him around.
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Corporate protectionism, anti-immigrant, christian nationalism, are all pretty good indicators of a far right authoritarian. That's quick, without giving any real thought about some of the many scandals and law breaking that follow him around.
He puts money in the people's pockets. He's a Christian but he isn't forcing it on anyone. His mother was an immigrant, he never stopped immigrants from entering, he just wants it done through a legal process, same as Australia do.

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Starmer has stated
he will Replace Corbyn with a new Labour MP
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Candidate, rather than MP. Corbyn might be voted in as an Independent. Depends if the people in his seat vote party or person.
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