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arista 16-01-2024 11:21 PM

British toddler, two, starves to death next to his dead father
 
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Tragic Case.


[Bronson's mother Sarah Piesse, 43,
told The Sun: 'If social services had done
their job Bronson would still be alive.
But they didn't do anything.
'I can't believe it. They can't let them get away
with this. We have to be able to rely
on social workers to keep our children safe.'

'I've had the results of the post mortem.
Bronson starved to death because
his dad died. They think Kenneth died no
earlier than December 29.

'It means if the social worker had pushed
to get in when she got no reply on
January 2 then Bronson would still
have been alive.'

On Facebook, Bronson's sister
Melaniie Battersby wrote: 'Beautiful little boy
deserved so much better than this life.
We love you Bronson, forever a part of us,
and forever my baby brother.'

Adding her 'head and heart' were 'in pieces',
she said: 'A lot of anger inside at minute
when I just want to remember his little smile
and soft nature instead. He were perfect.'

Sarah last saw Bronson after getting into
an argument with Kenneth before Christmas.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-save-him.html

The Mother should have visited
she is to blame as well.

Mystic Mock 17-01-2024 05:16 AM

How did it get left for so long?

RIP Bronson.

Kazanne 17-01-2024 10:35 AM

What a terribly sad story,that poor baby , Why wasn't the mother and relatives visiting ? Also social services failing again,quelle surprise.RIP Bronson.

Cherie 17-01-2024 10:57 AM

terrible story poor kiddie

Niamh. 17-01-2024 11:01 AM

The father must have had custody of the child which is why I'd imagine the mother wasn't there, it says the last time she called she'd had an argument with the childs father and also that the child was receiving weekly checks by social services so there's clearly more to this story as to why the mother wasn't visiting regularly and instead a social work was. I can understand why they're being blamed when they were supposed to see that child weekly, you would think they'd have gotten on to the landlord or police straight away when they couldn't see the child that first time, otherwise what's the point in them checking up on them at all?

arista 17-01-2024 11:04 AM

The Labour Leader Started
with his respects to the loss of Bronson


Parliament

Livia 17-01-2024 11:46 AM

Heartbreaking. I predict no one at social services will face any consequences for this.

Cherie 17-01-2024 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11409052)
The father must have had custody of the child which is why I'd imagine the mother wasn't there, it says the last time she called she'd had an argument with the childs father and also that the child was receiving weekly checks by social services so there's clearly more to this story as to why the mother wasn't visiting regularly and instead a social work was. I can understand why they're being blamed when they were supposed to see that child weekly, you would think they'd have gotten on to the landlord or police straight away when they couldn't see the child that first time, otherwise what's the point in them checking up on them at all?

It seems the Dad had heart issues, and that was why there were weekly checks, the social worker did call the police to do a welfare check when she got no answer but this didnt happen and again called the police a second time a few days later, finally she got a key from the landlord I feel she has gone above and beyond as she would have to make other checks and should have been able to rely on the police to break in...

Cherie 17-01-2024 01:30 PM

I wonder why no one heard the child crying, its heart wrenching

Cherie 17-01-2024 01:36 PM

The police have referred themselves to the Watchdog or whatever it is called

honestly....i would like a welfare check on a man with a serious heart issue and his 2 year old son and they did nothing twice! unforgivable

bots 17-01-2024 01:41 PM

it's heartbreaking. It just takes one person to mess up and the whole system fails

arista 17-01-2024 01:46 PM

What is tragic
is the 2 year old stayed next to the Dad
hoping he would wake up?

Niamh. 17-01-2024 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11409090)
It seems the Dad had heart issues, and that was why there were weekly checks, the social worker did call the police to do a welfare check when she got no answer but this didnt happen and again called the police a second time a few days later, finally she got a key from the landlord I feel she has gone above and beyond as she would have to make other checks and should have been able to rely on the police to break in...

OK fair enough, very bad from the Police then, poor little baby though, It's hard to imagine that this was even a possibility to happen

Gusto Brunt 17-01-2024 02:06 PM

Seems strange that a man with a serious heart condition was left to bring up a 2-year-old vulnerable boy.

And the social worker was not given a key to the door in advance. And the police also did not act.

There are serious failings here. That poor boy died a painful slow death. :(

arista 17-01-2024 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11409108)
Seems strange that a man with a serious heart condition was left to bring up a 2-year-old vulnerable boy.

And the social worker was not given a key to the door in advance. And the police also did not act.

There are serious failings here. That poor boy died a painful slow death. :(


Hang on
the Wife
should have gone there
she has a key

bots 17-01-2024 02:20 PM

A 2 year old with no food or water would die very quickly. A 1 week interval was too long if there was genuine concern over the fathers health

Gusto Brunt 17-01-2024 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11409111)
Hang on
the Wife
should have gone there
she has a key

That's true. But the social worker was there was a reason.

They all should have thought in advance, 'what if'...

The dad collapsed and wasn't necessarily dead.

The social worker should have had immediate access to that property.

We don't know if the dad suffered a sudden death. Maybe he died over several days too. Along with the boy.

TWO lives could have been saved.

The police also didn't act after repeated concerns from the social worker.

Beso 17-01-2024 03:24 PM

This is broken Britain. Absolutely tragic, and one im putting down to the non existent community spirit we have.

user104658 17-01-2024 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11409139)
This is broken Britain. Absolutely tragic, and one im putting down to the non existent community spirit we have.

I have to agree Parmy, there are some clear failings by the authorities here but the fact that they had no one else in their lives who would be concerned after at most a couple of days is absolutely tragic. Just really, really sad. What a lonely situation and lonely deaths.

arista 17-01-2024 05:08 PM

The landlady was asked to open their door.
After 3 different knocks, from Social Services

She would not appear on BBC News
but spoke to them.
So we heard her voice only.

Cherie 17-01-2024 05:09 PM

A friend visited on the 29th December and had a text message from the Dad thanking them for visiting, so he died between then and 2nd Jan, it possible if the police had done the welfare check on the 2nd the child might have been saved.

joeysteele 17-01-2024 05:11 PM

Awful tragedy as to both deaths.

Really heartbreaking to think of the horror leading up to the death of the 2 year old.
Devastating.

Ammi 17-01-2024 06:12 PM

….so, so heart-rending ….and for the family as well of the father who have lost both a child and a grandchild…with his heart condition, so long as it was known… it’s hard to know why there wasn’t a circle of agencies and care givers around father and son that may have have alerted for a forced entry sooner and possibly prevented Bronson’s death in the time lapses that there was no response to contact attempts…to use parmnion’s word, there seems to be a very broken system and sadly a father and child have lost their lives very tragically….

arista 18-01-2024 07:19 AM

The Mother had not been
in contact with her 2-year-old
for 2 weeks
that's cold.

I am sorry but she
should have got the home checked.

Cherie 18-01-2024 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11409324)
The Mother had not been
in contact with her 2-year-old
for 2 weeks
that's cold.

I am sorry but she
should have got the home checked.

agree with you, she will be looking for a big pay out now


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