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arista 08-05-2024 11:04 AM

Conservative Natalie Elphicke MP Defects to Labour
 
another one


Dover MP


[12.02 BST
Tory MP Natalie Elphicke defects to Labour

Tory MP Natalie Elphicke has defected to Labour,
hitting out at the “broken promises of Rishi Sunak’s tired
and chaotic government”, PA Media reports.]

Ammi 08-05-2024 11:10 AM

…just what Labour needs, a government full of Conservatives…good to be different, eh and give us an alternative hope vote…as if it wasn’t enough that Kier is Rishi in a different outfit…

arista 08-05-2024 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11448376)
…just what Labour needs, a government full of Conservatives…good to be different, eh and give us an alternative hope vote…as if it wasn’t enough that Kier is Rishi in a different outfit…


But she views Starmer
as the safe Prime Minister

arista 08-05-2024 11:15 AM

She took
over from her Corrupt Husband MP
who had to resign.

arista 08-05-2024 11:17 AM

I assume other MP's may jump
next Weds at PMQ's

joeysteele 08-05-2024 11:20 AM

Very odd one.
Maybe she was always someone leaning to Labour.

Odd she took over after her discredited husband then has now defected to Labour.

For me, any further lost vote for Sunak's government in parliament is something I overall welcome.

Vanessa 08-05-2024 11:23 AM

Stamer. Mmm he can't be any worse than Rishi surely.
He's better than Boris, I'll give him that. But that doesn't take much :laugh:

Ammi 08-05-2024 11:24 AM

…I’ll look her up, in terms of her politics and etc…but I’m fearing that this may be someone that sadly is another ‘career politician’…something this government have had far too many of and something that Labour don’t need at all…if she believed in Labour and Kier then she wouldn’t be ‘jumping’ now after such a bad Conservative Party week of results…/really poor show of her…

Liam- 08-05-2024 11:31 AM

More tories for the Tory lite party

arista 08-05-2024 11:39 AM

Same as the MP last week,
she is standing down at the next election.

arista 08-05-2024 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11448399)
More tories for the Tory lite party

No Slick Liam
not for long

Both MP's that jumped are
only there until the General Election.
Then they stand down.

arista 08-05-2024 12:42 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05...5170571581.jpg

bots 08-05-2024 01:44 PM

just doing it for attention. How do you stand out from the crowd if nobody knows you and you haven't done anything

arista 08-05-2024 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11448421)
just doing it for attention. How do you stand out from the crowd if nobody knows you and you haven't done anything


Great Points

arista 08-05-2024 05:40 PM

From the Daily Telegraph:



[The move was also poorly received by
some Labour MPs, with one telling
The Telegraph it was a “f------ joke” and
had “gone down like a cup of hot sick”,
while another Labour backbencher said
accepting Right-wing Tory defectors
was “not sustainable”.

John McDonnell, a former shadow
chancellor, told LBC Radio the defection
“would have strained the generosity
of spirit of John the Baptist”.

Meanwhile, the defection was condemned
by Momentum, a campaign group
on the Labour left,
which claimed it showed Sir Keir had
moved the party too far to the right.

A spokesman for the group
said: “Natalie Elphicke has consistently
demonised refugees and aid groups.
She voted against Labour proposals
to outlaw fire and rehire, while supporting a
wide array of destructive and damaging
Tory legislation.

“She should have no place in a Labour
Party committed to progressive values
and working-class people.”
]

arista 08-05-2024 05:52 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNEn-5EX...png&name=small

joeysteele 08-05-2024 05:57 PM

She's only going to be there for 6 to 8 months max.
Then she's not even going to be in politics.

This may even possibly help Labour win Dover in the election.
If the voters there liked her.

Plus it's far better to have another vote in parliament now against Sunak's government.

MTVN 08-05-2024 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11448460)
From the Daily Telegraph:



[The move was also poorly received by
some Labour MPs, with one telling
The Telegraph it was a “f------ joke” and
had “gone down like a cup of hot sick”,
while another Labour backbencher said
accepting Right-wing Tory defectors
was “not sustainable”.

John McDonnell, a former shadow
chancellor, told LBC Radio the defection
“would have strained the generosity
of spirit of John the Baptist”.

Meanwhile, the defection was condemned
by Momentum, a campaign group
on the Labour left,
which claimed it showed Sir Keir had
moved the party too far to the right.

A spokesman for the group
said: “Natalie Elphicke has consistently
demonised refugees and aid groups.
She voted against Labour proposals
to outlaw fire and rehire, while supporting a
wide array of destructive and damaging
Tory legislation.

“She should have no place in a Labour
Party committed to progressive values
and working-class people.”
]

Upsetting all the right people tbf if the Labour party cares about winning

arista 08-05-2024 10:17 PM

From reports

Many in the Labour Party
are now asking why Diane Abbott
is still suspended?

Meanwhile, Natalie is now a Labour MP.

arista 08-05-2024 10:23 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...1428a3dea7.png

Crimson Dynamo 08-05-2024 10:26 PM

she is one of the most right-wing tories

and Labour accepted her?

:laugh2:

how right-wing is Labour these days??

wow

arista 08-05-2024 10:28 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...5e5d6ac35c.png

arista 08-05-2024 10:39 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNFBYz1W...jpg&name=small

joeysteele 09-05-2024 06:18 AM

She's sitting as a Labour MP.
For a few months.

Then she's gone

I'm happy to hold my nose and see her now voting against the hard right wing policies of Sunak's heartless lot.

However she'd have been better sitting as an Independent.
Although Starmer should look at allowing a certain other to be re-admitted to the Party.
If he wants this fully inclusive line to seem genuine.

Anyone seeing the light of the wrongs of this Sunak government would get a welcome from me.
Especially as an election approaches.

bots 09-05-2024 06:24 AM

She could have said she is going to vote with labour for the rest of the parliament, which does the same thing and doesn't involve her joining the party.

It's hypocrisy from her and Starmer that needn't have gone down this path


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