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Originally Posted by Dezzy
I've never liked the term cis, when it comes to trans issues I like to keep things simple. Has the trans person transisitioned yet? If so then I consider them their chosen gender, if not then they are still their birth gender. You can't just decide one day that you are the opposite sex and that everyone has to treat you as such regardless of the state of your transition. I call people what they want to be called but you can't try to make out it's a hate crime if people don't use the right pronouns or disagree. It's underselling what a hate crime is and makes a mockery of all who have been victims of it.
Blurring the lines just lead to messy situations like this one and I think a lot of mtf trans people are letting the trans community down by going on the attack like this. I definitely think there's merit to the accusations of misogyny.
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Yup, totally agree. Also, just to point out Marsh, i think it's women (and why its more so women) who have a problem with the word "cis" is because it seems to be used as a way to insult women in discussions about this subject, it's become associated with insulting women (not men which is why it's women who object to it) I understand why you're saying but it's a descriptor etc but lets be real here that isn't how it's being used 90% of the times I've ever read it or heard it. Infact I first heard the word in some insulting post