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Old 01-08-2020, 02:56 AM #151
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Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
Not sure what your argument is here... saying they are both at fault means both are victims and abusers...
I can make that statement if I like whether it 'helps' or not.
It's not your call to suggest the debate can't include the opinion that they have both contributed to and been impacted by their own destructive tendencies. As well as being physically and mentally damaged by the actions of the other.

My view takes the fact that people are multifaceted and there isn't one abuser and one victim.. regardless of gender.

The phrase 'took on' was not directed towards amber it was those who provided statements for her in her defence. Whatever you think of her and the validity of her version these people are in a court of law to say she is right to say that... if she is making the whole thing up why would they 'take on ' Depp?
I never said you couldn't contribute whatever you want to contribute. I find that kind of response on this forum ridiculous. Disagreeing with what you are saying is not telling you you're not allowed to say it.

I gave my thoughts on what you said and how I found it reductive to the nature of abuse. "They're both abusers and victims" is reductive. That's my opinion.
I said they both have faults because they're human beings and not good/bad caricatures. That doesn't equate to them being equally to blame for abuse.

Why do I think 'they' would take on Depp? Who?
Her team? Money.
An abuser's web of lies doesn't just stop with their partner.

The Sun? Money.
The Sun are the ones on trial here.

Last edited by Marsh.; 01-08-2020 at 02:59 AM.
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