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Old 12-09-2020, 05:36 AM #4
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...I do think that this discussion has been such a lengthy and often quite heightened in emotion one etc...because it isn’t so black and white and there is much ‘grey’ with it..ideally, there would be no physical violence, obviously...but ideally also, there would be no such hateful prejudice still felt and voiced in 70 something years of life and life learning in someone in 2020...I also read in some reports that before the older guy had racially abused and called them monkeys and the N word, which can never be diminished or reduced with the label of ‘name calling’...that the younger guys had their hands/...or one of them had their hand on the holding pole to steady them as they ‘were standing room only‘ as it were...and the older guy had pushed the hand/hands off, which was the very first beginning of the leading up to../...incident...and the first ‘laying of hands on’, if it’s being reported correctly...I can’t imagine how it feels to ever be treated like that/to ever be treated in such a superior way as if you’re nothing at all...as if it was unpleasant in some way to physically be around you....on the whole, I don’t feel that violence is a ‘good answer’, but I do feel that sadly in some cases, it will become closer to an ‘inevitable’ or a likelihood and in the present day, much in society sadly seems to be getting closer and closer, rather than further and further as most of us would hope, from this type of abuse...and if and when that abuse happens, as with this incident... we have to consider in ‘judging’...well, we don’t have to but I personally do.. ...but then also what is the answer because I doubt there would ever be ‘the answer’ with someone who had lived so many years of life and still displayed such hatefulness...and in the judging of ‘applauding’ as it were...violence is never something that I personally would applaud but I think it is also a reaction to something quite hateful that sadly will be an inevitable or likelihood as well...


...as I’ve already said, I think...there is also very much ‘human’ to consider as well in judgement...and the psychology of human in reaction with this incident and in those moments...would possibly encompass also that what was provoking/abusing and physically pursuing right in front of them and what they were looking at etc...wasn’t an older man so much..it was hate...’pure hate attacking them verbally and possibly physically as well’...
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