[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's bizarre really - no matter what one believes about the nuance and rights/wrongs of the response from Israel, there is NO denying that the PR for Israel is absolutely shocking. And I fear unfixable. For a country that, let's face it, really is physically surrounded by hostility and relies heavily on international support to remain viable it's a very odd choice to be going in as hard and (at least, apparently) heavy-handedly. Moral high-ground posteuring and surgical strikes minimising collateral damage and offering maximum support to the civilian population would have been a politically far better choice in terms of "what comes next". When this is all over - whether Hamas is eliminated and Gaza reduced to dust or not - the future landscape looks fairly bleak and (despite what some disingenuous individuals would like to suppose from certain song contest results) international support for Israel is now at an all-time low.

I don't think its disingenuous to claim that most normal people can seperate normal Israelis from their government.... the public vote speak for themselves ...the bullying of that 20 year old girl by fellow contestants was low, even you must agree with that surely? Also after the Manchester bombing I seem to recall Mancunians coming together against terrorism, that was allowed but your bog standard Israeli it seems are supposed to take mass massacre on the chin...because of....something something Nethanyahu