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Old 12-11-2024, 12:48 PM #162
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Originally Posted by BBXX View Post
As I said it's a very complex issue. I do understand your point, but also in another respect, why is it up to trans people to disavow the activity on criminals using their identity as a gateway to be a criminal? If I pretended to be a Republican before attacking a Democrat, is it up to Republicans specifically to speak about it? Or if I attacked someone and claimed it was a religious-led attack despite being atheist? I am not sure.

Secondly, shining a spotlight that is not a widespread issue creates a very real threat to legitimate trans people, so I do understand. Some people will very much blur the lines between the two.

There are many times bigots use negative association with a certain demographic as a bargaining chip to try and prove their own prejudice as truth. For instance, if a gay man is caught being a paedophile, there will be many, many people using one incident to say "See... I told you so". It happens all the time. Hell, I have literally read it on here. And so it's very risky for a marginalised minority to shine a spotlight on something that many people will associate with their identity even if it is unrelated.

I hope I explained that okay.
I don't actually particularly disagree with any of what you've said here in principle -- all I would really say is, the politics of the issue (public discourse) should not affect, nor play into in any way, the actual discussion of safeguarding, policy and lawmaking around the issue; people who actually understand these issues should be properly assessing it in a reasonable and balanced way not subject to the often-explosive emotion that comes from both angles (and crucially, they must be allowed to be, without being subject to threats and intimidation either physical or to their careers).

That's not happening and that's not just on one group.

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