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Old 17-09-2025, 10:27 AM #15
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Israel should frankly tell Eurovision to shove it up their a-hole.

Ireland was really successful in Eurovision around the same time the IRA was blowing the arms and legs off people, women, children, elderly veterans, and no one called for their expulsion. But this is about Israel and Ireland, as a country, is pretty anti-Semitic. Ireland sent a message of sympathy to the German Ambassador on the death of Adolf Hitler. Maybe they should sit this one out.
Ireland is not anti-semitic. Being against what's happening in Israel/Palestine doesn't mean we're against Jewish people. Regarding what you posted about Hitler, that's a very out of context statement to make

This controversial act, one of the most controversial things de Valera ever did, has been regularly resurrected in the decades since, with some using it to suggest that he was pro-Nazi.

In fact, he was anything but and the story is a bit more complicated than some would have you believe, though you would be hard put to find anyone, then or since, who thought de Valera’s condolences were a good idea.

Context of course is key. Ireland was neutral in World War II (or, as it was termed here, 'the Emergency’), and although favourably disposed to the Allies and giving them considerable assistance behind the scenes, de Valera insisted on strict adherence to the formalities of neutrality.

So, while Allied airmen who crash-landed in Ireland were allowed to escape across the Border to Northern Ireland, while Germans were interned for the duration, this wasn’t admitted in public.


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