[Niamh.]

Look, I don't know, I'm not going to trawel the net looking for figures or anything, I'm just going to give you my opinion from what I have seen and heard. I turn on the radio in the morning and the news comes on, it's not very often I hear about cases of child abuse within the general public but there hardly seems a day that goes by when something about the church comes up.

And like I said, the church had such a hold over people up until not so long ago and for all this stuff to come out, it's twice as bad, and it's no wonder people are losing faith in the religion because of it.