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Originally Posted by calyman
You need to consider what the Church has condoned through the centuries, it's attitude not just to Gay people, but also women, slavery, it's involvement in genocide, it's Inquisitions, it's murdering those who'se scientific enquiry challenged the Church, it's selling of salvation for money. The Church has done all of that but mostly changed it's stance. Is it such a major step to do likewise with regard to Gay marriage?
A marriage is a union, a construct, a social or legal agreement. it does not exist in some rarified exalted place that only certain people who meet unnaceptable standards are entitled to. Marriage is and should be open to all.
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But it already is, so what on earth is the problem FFS? If, as you point out, the Church has been corrupt through the centuries, why are gay people bothered whether such an antiquated "homophobic" institution sanction their union? Specifically, how can they claim to believe in a faith which does not condone homosexuality? It is not after all a requirement of marriage that you marry in a church, a mosque or a tabernacle. If you insist on doing so then FFS have the honesty to admit you are doing it just to prove a point, not because you share the beliefs and values of that faith.
Personally, I see no merit in organised religion since it inhibits commonsense and common decency to others, and promotes division and conflicting ideologies. For that reason I did not choose to marry in a religious ceremony, where I would be required to pay lip service to a doctrine in which I did not believe, just so that I could have the pretty wedding pictures taken dressed in white outside a picturesque church. I had a civil ceremony which did the job just fine.