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Originally Posted by Liberty4eva
Well it's a conspiracy either way. A conspiracy is where two or more people plan to do something surreptitiously. I'd say the killing of Osama (if true) is a conspiracy as the people who did it conspired to do murder. Would you disagree?
Secondly, I knew it was certainly a lie when they said they buried his body at sea. Before then I decided to withhold judgement and see what evidence or proof they would provide the public. They've given us nothing. When there is no evidence the appropriate thing to do is judge based upon history and the integrity of the people involved. History tends to suggest that it is all a fairy tale. And just about every campaign promise by Obama has not only been a lie but a spectacular lie. The man has no integrity. I've actually seen Obama give a campaign speech and got a touch of his hand. I can't comprehend how every four years we go through this ritual where they say they're going to do something, go around shake people's hands, and then completely backtrack once in office.
And, yeah, I'm a big fan of Ron Paul. If you demand integrity in a politician, you have to like him almost by default. Last election I donated hundreds of dollars to his campaign and I've made several youtube videos supporting him, two of which had the honor of making it onto his main campaign website, and one video I made currently has over a quarter of a million views. It's called The George Bush You Forgot, which gives credance to Ron Paul's claim that he's running on George Bush 2000's foreign policy. You may want to have a look...
I don't hate government. I hate unconstitutional bloated government. Just about every government department or institution, no matter how noble or well-intentioned it starts out, ultimately ends up being a tool used to serve the powerful and well-connected. And, that being the case, if want to help the poor and powerless you ought to be in favor of reducing the size and scope of governmental power over our lives. That's what I believe, crazy or not. |
Well I dont have much interest in a pedantic argument over terminology, but in this context, using the word conspiracy, we're referring to the belief that the version we have been told is a lie.
And in that case you're basing your whole theory on an irrational suspicion. Looking at the reasons for Bin Laden being buried at sea they are not that difficult to comprehend, nor do they strike me as overly peculiar. Practically everything points to the official account being correct; we know for a fact that the Americans were conducting an operation in that area at the time they said, this is documented, we know that both the Taliban and now Al Qaeda have confirmed his death and so far there is no actual hard evidence to suggest the contrary. You cant really just disregard that because you're slightly suspicious as to why they might bury him at sea.
Dont get me wrong, I'm not immediately accepting every single thing that has been reported & the story does seem to have changed a little bit over the last week; firstly he was killed in a firefight when he was unarmed, and secondly he apprently used his wife as a human shield which turned out to be false. But these are minor details and the broad account of what happened would seem to be right - Bin Laden was killed by American forces on the 2nd of May.
The video is interesting but doesnt tell me anything I didnt already know; Bush was hypocrite, no surprise at that. I too am against big government and would consider myself pretty libertarian (small "l") but that doesnt mean I am suspicious of every single thing it does or says