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Originally Posted by MTVN

So would you say a woman who wears a revealing outfit would be responsible if she ended up getting raped?

Number one, in my hypothetical I was trying to be gender neutral by saying suit - slash dress

On the specific issue, out of interest we used to have an evangelist whose wife would often say something along the lines of "if you are not selling don't advertise" Probably basing her remark on what ladies wear out and about in Newcastle. This was a woman voicing an opinion that other women should be more circumspect in what they wear.

The question reminds me of the film The Accused with Jodie Foster, which dealt with the same question. If a woman dresses provocatively should she be responsible if something like that happened. The opinion generated by the film was that she should not be held responsible. In an ideal world we can hold to that, and that should be how it should be

However this is not an ideal world, as the wife of the evangelist would observe.

Things we do have consequences. Sometimes we have to limit ourselves and our freedoms because of this fallen world. If you go out wearing jewellery then you make sure you stay away from certain areas and take certain precautions in order to stay safe. You do not behave in a cavalier and reckless way, even if you have a right to and are not breaking any law.

Back on the real world example, if Samantha had not told lies and if Moat had still killed the boyfriend, and she still survived, then he would not have gone after the first police officer he found on a vendetta.

The consequence of her lies, has not lead to another death