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Originally Posted by kefln

Cant believe this debate is still going on. And I cant believe that people are still trying to push blame on hazel.

Yes she was flirty. Yes on hind sight she was pushing the envelope.

But taking a girl by the neck, telling her that she needs to learn respect, telling her he was going to end her, forcing her into a pillow and threatening to "nut" her is not exceptable.

For all those saying that it was "roleplay", would you say the same if that was your friend, your sister, your mother, or anyone you knew? No.

Does a build up of flirtation, or sexual tention, mean that physical acts of violence are acceptable? No. Therefore neither are threats.

All we have seen so far between hazel and daley is flirtation, hesitation and a little touchy feely . They havent even properly kissed. Yet people want to believe that they automatically jumped to auto erotic asphyxiation, without discussing it.

Hazel is guilty of being a flirt. But nothing in life prepares you to deal with an aggressive situation like that, without training, or experience. Trying to defuse the situation, or get it back on track, is natural. As is denial. Most people woud react with the thought of "that cant of really happened". For hazel, it was all in good fun. Daley was her friend. She was hopeful that there would be more. She was not expecting his reation.

Defending his actions, trying to shift blame around, result in the same thing. The conclusion that its ok to physically restrain, or hurt, someone, as long as they showed an interest leading up to the point of aggression.

Yes, if you don't do that straight away you're obviously a prude..........dontcha know