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Originally Posted by Robodog

Do not try and spin this around like i am 'supporting bullys' when i am the one who is being objective enough to say that Helen AND Brian's comment's were wrong! And YOU were the one (not me) making spiteful comments when you said that Helen should 'crawl back under the stone she came from'.

I am not the one making spiteful comments about a HM like you did! You cannot call others 'supporters of bullying' when YOU the one making spiteful comments like that! If you don't like Helen for her 'spiteful comments' - why make them yourself?!

What is REALLY happening here is that you are taking sides and being unfair in that you are happy to deride Helen for making 'bad' comments, while making 'bad' comments yourself about HER. Not only that, you are also refusing to recognise Brian's aggression and verbal and physical intimidation of Helen! You say 'he's done nothing wrong'?! Do you honestly think then it is 'ok' for him to stand over someone, pointing and shouting abuse in their face whilst being physically restrained!

Did you think it was equally ok for Helen to do that to Matthew last year then? I didn't.

In my eyes, Helen was wrong last year with Matthew and Brian was wrong THIS year with Helen. I do not let my bias towards one housemate influence my sense of right and justice - as you clearly do. It's the BEHAVIOUR that's the issue here not 'who you like'. I'm not on any one HMs 'side' regardless of their behaviour. I like both Helen and Brian for different reasons and i am able to say with objectivity when Helen is wrong AND when Brian is wrong.

You however seem to have one rule for Helen and one rule for others. What is the point of celebrating your 'education work' whilst clearly displaying such hypocrisy and also making similarly spiteful comments about Helen?!

Plus your sarchastic comment to me regarding victim support is below the belt. I HAVE worked with victims and i always maintain objectivity and not let my own personal bias affect my sense of fairness, justice and sympathy. But if a colleague was to display the kind of bias and hypocrisy towards people that YOU have shown towards Helen, and especially if they were to make a spiteful comment about someone like you did about her, then i would look to have them sacked.

But like you say this IS a free country and you are free to be as hypocritical and as spiteful as YOU like. Just as i am free to tell you i think you should look in the mirror and double check the unkindness and hypocrisy in your OWN comments before making them. You cannot expect to take the moral high ground by acting as bad as the people you say are wrong! For someone who claims to work in education, i would hope that was glaringly obvious.

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Okay, lets put this into perspective here. Yes, Brian was emotionally upset and aggressive but does that excuse Helen saying he looked like a murderer and RAPIST - I mean WTF - NO. Hell, no. Absolutely NOT. (Let's not forget Helen's part of antagonistic sneering which seems to have been deleted form the history book.) If you were in a heated argument with someone in the safe confines (let's face it) in the BB house would you excuse them if they called YOU those same things? You could say they were threatening, or over - the - top as Brian seemed to be. But to say they looked like a murderer or rapist - come on now - would you be so understanding if it were you on the receiving end? It's disgraceful!

As for people saying derogatory things about Helen. Is this a world where Helen can call someone a paedophile with no evidence whatsoever and tweet horrible things over and over and bully people like Jale and Matthew yet everyone is supposed to be all sweetness and light when talking about her? Is everyone supposed to take the high road and be little angels? Are you living in the real world? Of course people are going to REACT. There is a MASSIVE difference between REACTING to the awfulness of someone like Helen and being the INSTIGATOR in the first place like she is.

You accused Susie of being hypocritical and 'spiteful'. WTF!!! What you are basically saying is that the likes of Helen can do and say whatever the hell they please but if anyone dare react and tell them where to shove it then they are as bad, if not worse than Helen herself. Are you serious?
Awful people like Helen are going to get negative comments - unless you live in la la land where people can do and say what they please with no comeback and if that is the case why on earth do you you watch BB?