[Robodog]

Originally Posted by susie q

This sounds like the typical "blame the victim", stance that is adopted by many bullys. Brian did nothing to warrant being called either of those things, there should be no excuses made for it. As for my comment on Helen well it really is quite mild in comparison to some of the things both Helen and her fans have said. Thankfully I am nothing like either of them.
However I accept that "this is a free country" and if you wish to support to support bullying in any way that you want to you can.
Meanwhile I will continue to exercise my right to speak out against it, which is something I do in my non forum life. Have you ever considered doing any victim support work?

Do not try and spin this around like i am 'supporting bullys' when i am the one who is being objective enough to say that Helen AND Brian's comment's were wrong! And YOU were the one (not me) making spiteful comments when you said that Helen should 'crawl back under the stone she came from'.

I am not the one making spiteful comments about a HM like you did! You cannot call others 'supporters of bullying' when YOU the one making spiteful comments like that! If you don't like Helen for her 'spiteful comments' - why make them yourself?!

What is REALLY happening here is that you are taking sides and being unfair in that you are happy to deride Helen for making 'bad' comments, while making 'bad' comments yourself about HER. Not only that, you are also refusing to recognise Brian's aggression and verbal and physical intimidation of Helen! You say 'he's done nothing wrong'?! Do you honestly think then it is 'ok' for him to stand over someone, pointing and shouting abuse in their face whilst being physically restrained!

Did you think it was equally ok for Helen to do that to Matthew last year then? I didn't.

In my eyes, Helen was wrong last year with Matthew and Brian was wrong THIS year with Helen. I do not let my bias towards one housemate influence my sense of right and justice - as you clearly do. It's the BEHAVIOUR that's the issue here not 'who you like'. I'm not on any one HMs 'side' regardless of their behaviour. I like both Helen and Brian for different reasons and i am able to say with objectivity when Helen is wrong AND when Brian is wrong.

You however seem to have one rule for Helen and one rule for others. What is the point of celebrating your 'education work' whilst clearly displaying such hypocrisy and also making similarly spiteful comments about Helen?!

Plus your sarchastic comment to me regarding victim support is below the belt. I HAVE worked with victims and i always maintain objectivity and not let my own personal bias affect my sense of fairness, justice and sympathy. But if a colleague was to display the kind of bias and hypocrisy towards people that YOU have shown towards Helen, and especially if they were to make a spiteful comment about someone like you did about her, then i would look to have them sacked.

But like you say this IS a free country and you are free to be as hypocritical and as spiteful as YOU like. Just as i am free to tell you i think you should look in the mirror and double check the unkindness and hypocrisy in your OWN comments before making them. You cannot expect to take the moral high ground by acting as bad as the people you say are wrong! For someone who claims to work in education, i would hope that was glaringly obvious.

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