[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I'm pretty well up on where Christmas started. The New Testament has no birth date for Jesus and yes, the 25th December is officially the adopted birth date of Christ. I fully understand the reasons why this date was picked so you really don't need to educate me on this subject.

I accept that the Christians borrowed a date from Saturnalia but Christmas has been part of the Christian faith since the 4th century and that's a very long time. It wasn't banned by Christians, it was banned by the Roman Pagans but still quietly practised; enough in fact that we still have it now.

Christmas today doesn't represent the Christmas of old but what it morphed into was a day of peace and goodwill, at least for Christians....Why would any of us try to condemn that?

Red, I know that you and me have often got heated when arguing, but I DO respect you, your intellect, and your knowledge, so I want to give you some advice - once these 'Religious' threads descend into nothing more than a 'piss takers orgy' -- as they always do -- do not bother trying to communicate. It is futile. And no one knows better than I do.

You can destroy a fallacy with evidenced truth and it will not make one iota of difference.

Bow out love - this is no longer a 'Serious Debate' and the way it has descended into farce is not 'News'.