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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

This is not true and certainly not a fact. Christianity did not celebrate Christmas for centuries, in fact they were totally against it for centuries. The date Jesus was born has still not been indentified. The nearest date they have to this birth date is september or october. Why am i saying this...Sheperds in that region always kept their cattle indoors during the winter months. There is a passage in the bible that mentions cattle out door whilst talking about the birth of Jesus. Many people agree (none believers and believers) that his birth, if he did exist, would fall months before december and NOT on the exact same day as dozens of other gods before him. So Christmas was NOT born from Christianity. The rest of your post is interesting, i agree with everyone just enjoying the holiday for what it is, a holiday to spend time with your family and loved ones.

I'm pretty well up on where Christmas started. The New Testament has no birth date for Jesus and yes, the 25th December is officially the adopted birth date of Christ. I fully understand the reasons why this date was picked so you really don't need to educate me on this subject.

I accept that the Christians borrowed a date from Saturnalia but Christmas has been part of the Christian faith since the 4th century and that's a very long time. It wasn't banned by Christians, it was banned by the Roman Pagans but still quietly practised; enough in fact that we still have it now.

Christmas today doesn't represent the Christmas of old but what it morphed into was a day of peace and goodwill, at least for Christians....Why would any of us try to condemn that?