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Old 20-04-2016, 06:51 PM #262
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Originally Posted by Daniel. View Post
I don't care, I saw what I saw and SHE said in the house when Helen hated her in the DR that she felt isolated/bullied and cried. Of course when she was friends with/after the show she would say that as she was scared by Helen hence her becoming friends with her. She did used to say things like wasppp etc as christopher walked past with her gang, not an offensive word, but a bullying tactic.

BB15 was boring past the first three weeks because all it was was Helen and the lads having a smoke, I liked the first three weeks, I loved Ashleigh, it ended awfully though won by the woman who had made it worse than it could be.
What you saw was a 48 minute version of a 24 hour day, it's hardly representative is it? And I really don't remember that happening, I'm happy to be proven wrong if you provide me with a video or something but I swear she actually had a DR entry where they asked her if she felt it was going too far/they needed to step in and she said no, not at all

I don't agree, it had amazing arguments like Danielle vs Helen, Toya vs Winston and Marlon, Pauline being an irrational mess, Helen vs Ashleigh developing across the series and it resulting in their deserved F2 (second only time that the two biggest stars of the series have been made it there), one of the messiest showmances of all time in Steven and Kimberly, Biannca's hilarious four day stint or whatever it was, Mark being consistently funny with his meltdowns, cute friendships like Ashleigh and Danielle and Ashleigh and Chris, an out-of-the-blue bizarre minor storyline between Christopher and Mark, the list goes on

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Originally Posted by Jordan. View Post
No I'm not absolving her at all, but maybe if people didn't make her feel like her behaviour in BB15 was good enough for her to be crowned the winner and given a 100k reward, she wouldn't have carried on being so vile.
I don't agree that's why she won BB15 though, she ended up winning because of the producer's transparent attempt to make it look as though she'd been on a 'journey' and come full circle and was a new person (she wasn't, I always acknowledged this) and in typical fashion the fickle voting public lapped it up and she ended up winning. She didn't win because of her behaviour or else she same feat would've been repeated by someone like Marc, or many before her who acted similarly would've won but they don't because the public overall like inoffensive dullards (or in their eyes 'nice' people/people who've been on a 'journey')

If anything it's the producers who booked her and told her to do more of the same (as she's said on several occasions) who should take some of the blame, but really the onus is on her not to take it so far like she did with Brian that it just oversteps a huge mark
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