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Originally Posted by Kizzy
who are we to take as our confidants and allies in this... if not the EU or America? We cannot be a stand alone country.
Who are our friends?!!!
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What has upset the out organisations across the UK the most in my view,is the fact that the USA President has said what they 'will not' tell UK voters.
A really good friend tells you the bad you 'need' to hear as well as any good so I applaud Obama for saying what the out organisations are never going to probably to the UK voters.
That there is no long list of Countries waiting to bailout the UK on leaving the EU.
It is for the out side to show us with substantiation all the Countries that are heralding the UK out of the EU and who will make sure the UK gets the most lucrative deals with them too.
However in my view there are next to none.
Of course Countries will trade with the UK once out but not likely on the best deals possible as most of them will be trying to gain greater access to the EU markets and trade,which once the UK leaves the EU, the UK cannot then help deliver that access to them.
The president has put in clear words that even the USA, a solid ally of the UK, will not to the expense of gaining deals with the EU and therefore the EU Nations,look to help give the UK lucrative deals even with the USA.
There are no other Nations I have heard of who are saying all will be great with us if the UK leaves, that they then will do great trading deals with the UK.
None, and the reason is, that they want access to the EU trading machine too,of which the UK will be irrelevant as to, if it votes to leave.
Let the out organisations tell the voters, what Nations will welcome the UK out of the EU and give us the massive deals we may need, also at the same time tell us just what deal we will go for with the EU, that we have a realistic hope of getting and 'all' the conditions that will still have to apply to the UK if and when we do get a trade deal.
Obama as head of the USA, has blown a hole in the out organisations arguments as to other Countries that we can rely on to trade really lucratively with.
As Obama said, the UK could find itself at the back of the queue and I think he has spoken sense there and I am glad he put it so bluntly.
It is time the out organisations stopped dismissing all the in side says,whether its right or wrong,and much the in side has said is wrong and started to prove to us, such Nations are there and who they are and what they are saying too as to trading with the UK after an exit vote from the EU.
'In' doesn't have to prove anything, the EU is there we are in it,its successes and failures are there to see for all, the good and bad as to it too.
We have noting at all however of substance from the out organisations and it is time they informed voters with real facts and identified the Countries and all other organisations who may be backing them up,if they can find any..
While they are at it, they also need to totally get that £350million claim poster put right that has been termed as being misleading and get the right figures in place.
Also if they are advocating all the funds of any savings from the EU going to the NHS,they also need to then prove and say what they will do for the Farmers and other areas who get some of that funding back from the EU too.