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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed
The left is no more or less anti-Semitic than any other section of society. Whilst I agree that such behaviour should be challenged wherever it rears its ugly head, why now... just days before the elections?
Because despite all their efforts, the right wing media are looking at being proved massively wrong on Thursday as Corbyn's popularity energises the Labour party for the first time in a generation, so this issue has been shoved in everyone's faces as a final last desperate attempt at smearing a party which has less racism all round than the Tories.
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The left is not as you say any more anti-semitic just as the right are not racist,some on the left may be so and some on the right may be deemed racist but to term the whole of one section with inflammatory and hateful undertones as anti semitic or racist.anti Jewish or being red nazis has no place and should have no place in the UK in my view.
Where there are any they need to be found and removed, that has been the problem of all parties that they fail to check with the fullest scrutiny those they select as candidates to represent them.
There is the added problem too of the diverse cultures in the UK now too,more and more and rightly so, are being chosen from other cultures than just from the former UK culture to stand for election.
Differing cultures will view the World and other Countries of the World not the same at times as the UK generally would.
They will have different grievances with some areas of the World than we have.
That is why,if little else comes from this investigation,some newer guidelines on terminology that is not in any way acceptable should be made.
Obviously with new strict enforcement of same to those seeking election to any office in the UK.
Also yes, maybe the UK does need some educating as to what is right and wrong on the issue too as it seems even our leaders don't know enough now.
As to the elections this week,well it will be a wonder if many turn out since we could be forgiven for thinking there were none with the EU issue dominating all the news.
However yes,I expect Labour to do less than as well it might have this week.
As for Scotland,there will be no move back to Labour as long as the SNP are as strong as they are at present and with a new possible independence referendum on the horizon if we vote to leave the EU,the SNP will rule supreme.
Even Ruth Davidson,one of the best Conservative leaders in Scotland for ages in my view, has said,Labour has gone over to the SNP and it will take the SNP to start losing support for Labour to come back, but that they will in time.
These elections will I feel start the ball rolling more, even if Khan wins the London Mayor office,to find a way to remove Corbyn.
However many of his policies are right so if that comes about I hope many of his polices remain with any successor.
This anti-semitism issue is what needs sorting out and if bad losses this week make it all the more sure this is done right and thoroughly,then that will be a positive thing.
If however the losses are tolerable and not as bad as everyone who hates Labour is hoping to see,then I will applaud the electorate,the Lib Dems, supported all the cuts to council funding,so why should they fare any better now, the Conservative govt is still hammering councils and even has its own up in arms on several issues.
So UKIP are the likely real beneficiaries as to winning seats from both,we saw the chaos after one UKIP council was elected so fun and games this time round.
The whole state of UK politics is bad,from the electoral system we have right down to how parties conduct themselves,in and out of govt,all of them.
I guess bullying as is being investigated in the Conservative party takes a back seat now and is acceptable over any 'perceived' prejudice of anti-semitism, yet often bullying stems from or even leads to prejudice.
Lets see what happens on Thursday, those who hate Labour will no doubt ring their hands with glee if they do really badly and maybe set out more to label it an anti-semitic party.
Rubbishing the investigation into same while ignoring other faults of the other parties at the same time who will also have their minority problems too as to anti semitism, prejudice and racism.
That is why I think there should now be a full independent scrutiny of all parties and their representation,local or National.
I myself have not found the anti-semitism issue a major issue raised on doorsteps while leafleting and canvassing,however after the general election I take much of what is said there with a pinch of salt now.
So over to the voters now.
The present opinion polls have the Conservatives ahead of Labour by at least 5 or 6 points,so they should do really good in these local elections from the low base the Conservatives and Lib dems fell to last time in 2012.
Wales will I feel see a likely UKIP surge with Labour remaining the largest party however there.
If Labour were not to be the largest party and failed to be able to lead as to governing the assembly in Wales, that will certainly be the time for Corbyn to really assess his position.
There is one way for him not to be elected again and that is if he did not stand for leader again and stood down.
I am a great believer in if someone cannot win voters round,then they need to recognise that and hand over to someone who can.
As to the anti-semitism row,Thursday will decide if the voters think Corbyn has done enough already as to dealing with it or if he has clouded the issue further rather than cleared most of the mist over it.