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Originally Posted by Vicky.
Ammi, with respect I don't think you have understood my point  Of course it is fantastic that Chloe is allowed to be who she feels she is, especially in such a male dominated area such as the army. But to claim she is making history as the first female on the front line is entirely false and quite insulting also to the other transwomen who were on the frontline before Chloe decided to take the thunder, along with insulting towards women who are actively trying to get in that position now and have been disadvantaged because of their sex alone. |
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Originally Posted by Vicky.
I guess what I am trying to say is this story would have been better received if it was along the lines of 'I came out as trans and the army accepted me as a woman and I kept my job that I love doing' or something. Rather than the attempt to make out this is a first, or that its a step forward for the army regarding biological women who are currently still fighting hard to get into the same position that Chloe is in due to her male privilege she had before coming out.
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..I do totally get what you're saying, Vicky...I just don't see it in quite the same way ...I probably shouldn't have posted last night because I was tired so didn't really expand that much but my thoughts were trying to associate if I were a colleague of hers and whether I personally would feel that she had taken something away from me as a 'born female' and her being the 'first female'..?....and I don't see that I would feel any differently to if she had been naturally born a female...if I were the first born female to fight at the frontline then my achievements would be the same regardless of this because although I do celebrate female achievements..(as I do male ones..)...when all's said and done, it's just really 'titles', isn't it...I mean it doesn't take away those personal achievements, which to me are the most important thing...not to be 'first'....and I do see her advantages in terms of the physical in doing her training as a male but that's not something that she could do anything about, in which body she was born...?...that was beyond her control and to me again, I guess my thoughts are that the disadvantages she has had in her life/personal and professional, must far outweigh any advantages in her career choice....she has had to overcome less in some ways but much more in others, type thing so it's the balancing of that as well..?....and people will always have advantages/disadvantages that they're born with or environmentally given that may make a difference in their careers and their lives, that's just the way of it....
..anyways, I think the sticky bit seems to be whether she is the first trans female as well because like Matt has said..(and I think Jess as well..)...if she isn't, then the whole story and achievement is mis-information....I have googled and quite a few sites have the story but they all seem to link to the Daily Mirror...and yes, the Daily Mirror for goodness sake..
....so I really don't know of any other trans females who are already serving at the front-line...so that is awful reporting if true and some are....