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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed
And you believe the American government doesn't lie? that Trump doesn't lie?
America lied to us when it said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It didn’t invade Iraq and dispose of Hussein because it was misled, it invaded because of ‘American ideology’ and it was prepared to sacrifice thousands of NATO soldiers as well as kill over a 100,000 Iraqis before turning Iraq into a chaotic dust bowl.
The same happened with Iran in 1953, in Afghanistan in 2001, in Asia, Cuba, Puerto Rico the Philippines Africa, Libya and Vietnam. These CIA military attempts to overthrow governments are endless.
Trumps lies are endless, the U.S government lies are endless and ‘Western Civilization’ fully support those lies and every lie the US uses is duplicated throughout Europe, Australia and Canada. Then here we all are shouting, kill the fnckers, nuke the bvstards.
Yes, yes, lets all believe the propaganda hype against him too! though what he's got to do with this topic is somewhat baffling.
We are the invaders, not Russia.
America and its allies have been flexing its muscles over Muslim rule for far too long and all it causes is, political instability and terrorist blowback. I condemn imperialism and that’s exactly what this is.
How can America claim its safeguarding liberty when it approves illegal torture, commits war crimes and created mass genocide in Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen and Syria. This is about empire building… ‘divide and rule’ and forgive me, but I'm no cheer leader.
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Ffs, no-one is saying the West are perfect, but they don't brutalise, terrorise or murder their own people. They don't stone young women to death for daring to stand-up to the system. Whatever the West's faults, and there are plenty, they don't have the complete lack of human rights of the Middle East.
I don't pretend to be an expert on the Middle East but like most I am aware of their appauling human rights' record. I also seem to recall that when we went into Iraq many Muslims there were begging the West to intervene and get rid of a murdering dictator. The Middle East creates its own dictators who sometimes need to be removed, as much for the sake of the helpless people they torture and murder as for the political interests of the West.
Yes we were lied to about nuclear weapons, and most regret the loss of our brave men and women as a result, but what is done can't be undone. None of that however puts the West in the same league as the dictators of the Middle East, neither does it excuse terrorism. There is no comparison.