[Jarvio]

Well it is, isn't it

[Doogle]

oh my

[Jords]

oh my

[Novo]

Can't disagree after what i've seen tonight

[Beastie]

Give it chance or GET OUT.

[reece(:]

Parts of it is now, but it's still watchable.

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by Jords

oh my

aw snap

[Stu]

Pretty much, yep.

It was always a disgracefully manipulative, life ruining, low grade slice of voyeurism. But it had a huge charm and often passed as some weird art in it's best moments [I.E. the way they engineered Aisleyne into a mental breakdown that culminated with Big Jonathan's booting out].

Now it's just ... a crap TV show?

[Jarvio]

lol my OP was maybe an overreaction, I'm mainly referring to tonight.....

Oh and doogle, nice avatar... love zelda games

[King Gizzard]

You're on the right forum then aren't you really

[Urban Cragou]

What Nathan said.

Edit: see what you mean now.

[Stu]

Can't wait for iRyan to see this and make seventeen counter threads.

[Patrick]

It really is. I can't even defend it against haters anymore, because any thing they say about it being fake, camp or scripted - I can't even come up with a counter argument for it anymore. Because, well yeah.

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by Jarvio

lol my OP was maybe an overreaction, I'm mainly referring to tonight.....

Oh and doogle, nice avatar... love zelda games

I forgot to reply to your wall post. You have taste.

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by Stu

Can't wait for iRyan to see this and make seventeen counter threads.

laughed out loud

[King Gizzard]

(However I agree, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this one)

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by Beastie

Give it chance or GET OUT.

Pipe down.

[Jarvio]

Originally Posted by Doogle

I forgot to reply to your wall post. You have taste.

Instead of watching BB this year I might just spend my time replaying skyward sword lol

[DigitalSid]

It's no more crap than BB12 was at this point so far for me. I didn't get into that straight away either. So I'll tell you in a few weeks.

[Kizzy]

I will give em a go....

[Jarvio]

I'm just a bit sick of the same types of people going in..... model after model after model. Only 1 person over 40 (and she might be the first out)

[Kizzy]

When will the wildcard go in ( sorry if asked a lot tonight)

[Locke.]

Yeah it is, but it's still a decent watch if you're bored enough

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Stu

[I.E. the way they engineered Aisleyne into a mental breakdown that culminated with Big Jonathan's booting out].

I still think that is probably the best reaction to a twist culmination there has ever been, excluding fight night of course.

It was just so...wonderfully sick. The poor girl was distraught yet it made some amazing TV. That was once the beauty of this show, I don't think the producers are anywhere near capable of creating that sort of thing nowadays.

[DigitalSid]

Originally Posted by Jarvio

I'm just a bit sick of the same types of people going in..... model after model after model. Only 1 person over 40 (and she might be the first out)

I think some of this year's might surprise us from the leaks earlier. They did seem a bit samey on the show but they have more background than the last few series housemates, despite seeming more normal looking (something we've been calling for for years then moan when we get it).

It's way too early on for us to be making statements like the OP's. It's not as good as the show that I grew up with, but it still has enough moments for it to be worth giving the series more of a go than one episode .