[Beso]

I think it should be lowered to 14 but then laws should be in place so an 18yr old cant be having sex with a 14 yr old.

[Cal.]

People will have sex whenever they want.

I'd probably lower it to 14 as I know that my friends were having sex at 14/15 and they definitely felt old enough and ready for it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

People will have sex whenever they want.

I'd probably lower it to 14 as I know that my friends were having sex at 14/15 and they definitely felt old enough and ready for it.

But that's not the point surely?

Changing a law because "people will do it anyway" isn't really valid IMO.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think it should be lowered to 14 but then laws should be in place so an 18yr old cant be having sex with a 14 yr old.

No - they are too young. It would give randy 14 - 17 year-old boys an excuse to pressurise/force gullible young girls. Besides it won't happen - we are not that liberal.

[Cal.]

Also from my experience, girls at that age enjoy having sex and sleeping around just as much as boys do.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also from my experience, girls at that age enjoy having sex and sleeping around just as much as boys do.

Exactly each gender is likely no different as to that at all.
Well said.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Also from my experience, girls at that age enjoy having sex and sleeping around just as much as boys do.

From my experience lots of young girls feel pressurised by boys, therefore effectively forced, before they are ready. it's bad enough for 16 year olds, we certainly shouldn't be putting that pressure on 14 year-old girls. They are being forced to 'grow up' too soon.

[joeysteele]

On balance I'd leave it at 16.
You couldn't also really have a legal age of consent at 14 then have laws prohibiting choice.
It wouldn't be a legal age of consent then.

It certainly should not be raised to 18, not at all.

A compromise could be make it 15.
I really believe if 15 year olds wish to,they will be doing so anyway.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

On balance I'd leave it at 16.
You couldn't also really have a legal age of consent at 14 then have laws prohibiting choice.
It wouldn't be a legal age of consent then.

It certainly should not be raised to 18, not at all.

A compromise could be make it 15.
I really believe if 15 year olds wish to,they will be doing so anyway.

It works in germany where the age of consent is 14 as they have a law that a 21 yr old cant have sex with a 14 yr old..they also have one of the lowest teenage pregnancy records in western europe.. britain has the highest.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It works in germany where the age of consent is 14 as they have a law that a 21 yr old cant have sex with a 14 yr old..they also have one of the lowest teenage pregnancy records in western europe.. britain has the highest.

That still leaves grown men to manipulate and take advantage of children. So you think it's ok for a 20 year-old man to have sex with a 14 year-old child! It's verging on paedophillia. We need to protect young girls not make them more vulnerable to selfish young men with one thing on their minds.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That still leaves grown men to manipulate and take advantage of children. So you think it's ok for a 20 year-old man to have sex with a 14 year-old child! It's verging on paedophillia. We need to protect young girls not make them more vulnerable to selfish young men with one thing on their minds.

I was seeing it more from a 14 yr old boy with a 20 yr old girl.

But no, i dont see that as ok so i would like it to have the 21 yr old limit they have in germany reduced to 16 here.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That still leaves grown men to manipulate and take advantage of children. So you think it's ok for a 20 year-old man to have sex with a 14 year-old child! It's verging on paedophillia. We need to protect young girls not make them more vulnerable to selfish young men with one thing on their minds.

I think most people around my age probably like girls at age 17 onwards so wouldn't be attempting to go for a 14 year old.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That still leaves grown men to manipulate and take advantage of children. So you think it's ok for a 20 year-old man to have sex with a 14 year-old child! It's verging on paedophillia. We need to protect young girls not make them more vulnerable to selfish young men with one thing on their minds.

I knew the day that we agree on something would come eventually! Look at us being all PC together! Although we need to protect young people of both genders.
The average age men lose their V is a lot younger than the age women do, suggesting there are more older women out for younger men than vice versa.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

I knew the day that we agree on something would come eventually! Look at us being all PC together! Although we need to protect young people of both genders.
The average age men lose their V is a lot younger than the age women do, suggesting there are more older women out for younger men than vice versa.

Yes we may agree on the first bit, not sure about the second. I just can't imagine girls/women 16+ being interested in boys of 14. They usually want a bit of 'sophistication' and it's unlikely any 14 year-old would fit the bill.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It works in germany where the age of consent is 14 as they have a law that a 21 yr old cant have sex with a 14 yr old..they also have one of the lowest teenage pregnancy records in western europe.. britain has the highest.

How would that work in the U.K.? Lower the age and suddenly kids start using all the free contraception available to them? It might be a better idea to stop sexualising children, sex is shoved down our throats literally, even so called "family" viewing like soaps can't go a week without a sexual storyline, Britain is obsessed with sex and not in a healthy way. 16 is fine, 14 is a bit creepy, I'm not saying there aren't mature 14 year olds but they are few and far between

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How would that work in the U.K.? Lower the age and suddenly kids start using all the free contraception available to them? It might be a better idea to stop sexualising children, sex is shoved down our throats literally, even so called "family" viewing like soaps can't go a week without a sexual storyline, Britain is obsessed with sex and not in a healthy way. 16 is fine, 14 is a bit creepy, I'm not saying there aren't mature 14 year olds but they are few and far between

Its a bit creepy cause of the thoughts that go through our heads qhen we think of it.

I bet there are a good few married couples out there that knew eachother when they were 14.

I can remember some of my strongest feelings of love were when i was round about that age. You must remember finishing with your boyfriend at that age.

I remember how sore i would feel inside and how i would sit alone iny bedroom at home listening to sad songs.

So 2 well sexually educated consenting 14 yr olds obviously in love should not be denied by law to share in the joys of sex?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Its a bit creepy cause of the thoughts that go through our heads qhen we think of it.

I bet there are a good few married couples out there that knew eachother when they were 14.

I can remember some of my strongest feelings of love were when i was round about that age. You must remember finishing with your boyfriend at that age.

I remember how sore i would feel inside and how i would sit alone iny bedroom at home listening to sad songs.

So 2 well sexually educated consenting 14 yr olds obviously in love should not be denied by law to share in the joys of sex?

Yes because they're bloody kids, jesus, a lot of girls haven't even had their first period at 14 :/ They should be thinking about school and their exams etc not the bloody joys of sex

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Its a bit creepy cause of the thoughts that go through our heads qhen we think of it.

I bet there are a good few married couples out there that knew eachother when they were 14.

I can remember some of my strongest feelings of love were when i was round about that age. You must remember finishing with your boyfriend at that age.

I remember how sore i would feel inside and how i would sit alone iny bedroom at home listening to sad songs.

So 2 well sexually educated consenting 14 yr olds obviously in love should not be denied by law to share in the joys of sex?

So because of your own experiences at 14 you want the age of consent reduced, 80 per cent of 14 year olds are not ready for a mature sexual relationship, no one can stop two consenting 14 years old from having a relationship, anymore than an 18 tag can stop pre 18s drinking alcohol or smoking or watching movies, lowering the age of consent would put huge pressure on the majority of early teens who are nowhere near ready, and I still don't see how it's going to reduce teen pregnancies maybe you could explain that one to me? Okay so Germany has a lower rate but I don't know what goes on in Germany with regard to sex education or the sexualisation of children which is an issue here in the UK

[joeysteele]

Well that's a conditional age of consent not a full legal age of consent.

Maybe it works there but that doesn't ensure it would here.

Better education on the issue maybe would help.
However you either have a legal age of consent or not, if you are limited to who you can consent to then that is not free choice at all.


Someone 16 can consent to someone in their 20s and beyond.
To me there's no point in saying someone can consent at 14 but not to anyone 18 or over.

[Mystic Mock]

15 or 16 as they're the most healthy and realistic ages to expect people to hold off having sex for.

[Niamh.]

14 is far too young imo

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

14 is far too young imo

This^

People are still immature at 16 nevermind 14.I'd leave it at 16.That's the absolute minimum i reckon.

[Withano]

The legal age should not be lowered, and I dont see a reason for it to be any higher either really.

Having the legal age at 16 - still - encourages those approaching this age to have sex, because they are nearly there anyway. I believe this logic will still exist if the legal age was lowered to 14 and thats verging on prepubescent.

[Livia]

I think it's only by getting a little older that you realise what a baby you are at 14.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

The legal age should not be lowered, and I dont see a reason for it to be any higher either really.

Having the legal age at 16 - still - encourages those approaching this age to have sex, because they are nearly there anyway. I believe this logic will still exist if the legal age was lowered to 14 and thats verging on prepubescent.

Yep, my son just turned 13, he's still in primary school, still has a childs voice and is no where near getting ready to shave yet.....that's one year away from 14

Originally Posted by Livia

I think it's only by getting a little older that you realise what a baby you are at 14.

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