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Old 03-10-2017, 11:38 PM #1
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Default So..... Boris’ speech....... Too much?

"I look at Libya, it's an incredible country," he told the meeting.
"Bone-white sands, beautiful sea, Caesar's Palace, obviously, you know, the real one.
"Incredible place. It's got a real potential and brilliant young people who want to do all sorts of tech.
"There's a group of UK business people, actually, some wonderful guys who want to invest in Sirte on the coast, near where Gaddafi was captured and executed as some of you may have seen.
"They have got a brilliant vision to turn Sirte into the next Dubai.
"The only thing they have got to do is clear the dead bodies away," he said, before laughing.

The host of the conference fringe event, Legatum Institute chief executive Baroness Stroud, stepped in to say "next question", as the foreign secretary continued to speak.
The coastal city of Sirte is the former stronghold of so-called Islamic State, or Daesh, and recently the scene of fierce fighting.





Boris Johnson Libya 'dead bodies' comment provokes anger
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Ugh. I used to adore this man, he was sucha a lovely harmless idiot. Now he's a bit of a ***** dangerous idiot and its not fun anymore.
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"They have got a brilliant vision to turn Sirte into the next Dubai. The only thing they have got to do is clear the dead bodies away," he said, before laughing.
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What a prize prat, he was doing ok until then.
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This really and I blame him for Brexit as well it would have swung the other way if he wasn't on the bus
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I suspect he wasnt actually joking
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In the interests of fairness, I did see a report this morning that explained the comment was taken out of context and that he had been talking about the daesh bodies that are left booby trapped to explode. Because they are booby trapped it's taking a long time to dispose of them.
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In the interests of fairness, I did see a report this morning that explained the comment was taken out of context and that he had been talking about the daesh bodies that are left booby trapped to explode. Because they are booby trapped it's taking a long time to dispose of them.
Does that make his glib joke any less inappropriate though? I don't think so.
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On the bad side which represents most as to Boris, this man is a liability as the UKs foreign secretary,not fit at all for such high office.

The plus side,despite his intelligence,he cannot help spouting out the nasty elements of his thinking in public.

So those who can and want to can be shown the truly self-obsessed person he is with the very dubious and inflammatory thinking he holds too.
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Does that make his glib joke any less inappropriate though? I don't think so.
making a joke about dead lybian rebels is hardly inappropriate

no one gives 2 fks about them

or Lybia

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This PM won't sack him though,he'd be far more a likely problem to her on the backbenches.

Fringe meeting or not,he knows it would get reported.
The worry is he sees no wrong as to anything he says.

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Does that make his glib joke any less inappropriate though? I don't think so.
No,it doesn't. You are correct in my view.
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making a joke about dead lybian rebels is hardly inappropriate

no one gives 2 fks about them

or Lybia

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Yeah because mass death is always something to joke about.
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In the interests of fairness, I did see a report this morning that explained the comment was taken out of context and that he had been talking about the daesh bodies that are left booby trapped to explode. Because they are booby trapped it's taking a long time to dispose of them.
Even if it was taken out of context and as a seasoned politician he should have some nous by now on what might be dodgy ground to make jokes about, if he has ambitions of being PM, he really needs to reign himself in
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Even if it was taken out of context and as a seasoned politician he should have some nous by now on what might be dodgy ground to make jokes about, if he has ambitions of being PM, he really needs to reign himself in
I'd laugh my head off at the mere suggestion but.... Donald Trump is President these days.
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People do all the time if its the other side. My point still stands, no one gives 2 fcks except some prissy labour Ms trying to score virtue points (and failing)

It was a fringe meeting and a good line for a fringe meeting, if people want to film it and broadcast it to others out of context and with a "look what he said about dead people" well fck them as well
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i'm fed up with speeches being deemed inappropriate. Everyone is entitled to say what they want provided it is within the law. In the case of a politician, if you don't like what they are saying then don't vote for them.
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He said he had been highlighting the issue of the bodies of dead Daesh fighters being “booby-trapped” with explosives in the city, and said it was “a shame people with no knowledge or understanding of Libya want to play politics with the appallingly dangerous reality in Sirte.”

In other words the criticism is by mps and people who have never been to Lybia and have little knowledge of the situation on the ground.
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Exactly this tbh...
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Exactly this tbh...
which senior politician do you like?
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Does that make his glib joke any less inappropriate though? I don't think so.
As mentioned, the report said out of context, no mention of jokes. Out of context means that the actual conversation was different to what was reported so if that is the case it is unlikely it was a joke or that what was said was reported correctly. Beyond that I wasn't there and neither were you.
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What do you mean by senior politician? I don't really like any of them but used to find Boris kind of endearing when I fell for the stupid idiot act
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War --> Death --> Clear away the bodies --> Western profit.


I don't think he was lying OR joking; I think he was describing exactly how these things work and have worked for centuries. He just forgot that he's not supposed to be so open about that in public. Thought he was at a soirée with his ruthless venture capitalist buddies.
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