[UserSince2005]

Matthew Scully-Hicks 'murdered' adopted baby after two weeks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-41549969

Sick and shocking, his poor husband.

[Marsh.]

sCUM!

[RileyH]

what a ****

[Cal.]

****ing twat

[smudgie]

That poor baby, what a life of pain and terror she must have suffered.

[Cal.]

Still seething at this the ****ing prick

[jaxie]

It's a horrible story and it does make you wonder why there wasn't a stronger support network in place for this baby to make sure she was safe in the home.

[user104658]

Given the previous injuries described in the post-mortem, I can't see any possible way that the partner didn't know or at least suspect that abuse was going on. No way to prove that though, I suppose.

[Mystic Mock]

This child really never got a start in life sadly.

Hopefully this guy gets shook up a bit in Prison.

[Mystic Mock]

This child really never got a start in life sadly.

Hopefully this guy gets shook up a bit in Prison.

[Mystic Mock]

By that I mean some prisoners putting him upside-down.

[Northern Monkey]

Awful.Calling a baby psycho should have been a warning to whoever he was texting.

[AnnieK]

Some people dont realise just how testing a crying baby can be. Some mothers snap and hurt thwir children. This guy and his husband will have gone through very stringent checks and procedures before being approved to adopt but nothing will ever prepare you for those first few sleep deprived months. I am in no way condoning what he has done....it is sick but I cant see that saying they have been though the adoption process to prove they could is in any way justified. Poor little girl....terrible start and terrible end to life

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Some people dont realise just how testing a crying baby can be. Some mothers snap and hurt thwir children. This guy and his husband will have gone through very stringent checks and procedures before being approved to adopt but nothing will ever prepare you for those first few sleep deprived months. I am in no way condoning what he has done....it is sick but I cant see that saying they have been though the adoption process to prove they could is in any way justified. Poor little girl....terrible start and terrible end to life

I would love to know how and if they test for anger management issues.

Like what do you do if you stub your toe?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Some people dont realise just how testing a crying baby can be. Some mothers snap and hurt thwir children. This guy and his husband will have gone through very stringent checks and procedures before being approved to adopt but nothing will ever prepare you for those first few sleep deprived months. I am in no way condoning what he has done....it is sick but I cant see that saying they have been though the adoption process to prove they could is in any way justified. Poor little girl....terrible start and terrible end to life

This.
If anything the fact they had just completed adoption procedures kind of makes it more likely this guy snapped in a way he never has before.

A tragedy that, unfortunately, can't always be foreseen.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

This.
If anything the fact they had just completed adoption procedures kind of makes it more likely this guy snapped in a way he never has before.

A tragedy that, unfortunately, can't always be foreseen.

Does that cover the previous injuries as well?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Does that cover the previous injuries as well?

Previous injuries.... after they'd adopted the girl?

Re-read my post.

The way he's treated this little girl might be the first incident of him ever doing something like this. Hence his partner maybe not suspecting him (although I always question cases like this where they live in the same house bringing a child up together but whatever) and also hence him passing all of the adoption procedures.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Previous injuries.... after they'd adopted the girl?

Re-read my post.

The way he's treated this little girl might be the first incident of him ever doing something like this. Hence his partner maybe not suspecting him (although I always question cases like this where they live in the same house bringing a child up together but whatever) and also hence him passing all of the adoption procedures.

Mr Lewis told the jury about a catalogue of injuries Elsie had suffered during her short life.

In November 2015, two months after she had been taken in by the couple, she had fractured her ankle while in the sole care of the defendant, who had given differing accounts of how she had suffered the injury.

A month later she sustained a bruise to her forehead which a health visitor advised needed treating. Matthew Scully-Hicks allegedly lied he had done so, the jury heard.

'Going through hell'

In January, Elsie suffered another bruise on her head and in March she was taken to hospital by ambulance after Matthew Scully-Hicks said she had fallen down the stairs.

She was discharged from hospital after four hours after her injuries were considered "consistent with a fall downstairs".

The jury were read a series of text messages the defendant allegedly sent to friends. One described the baby as a "psycho".

One read: "I'm going through hell with Elsie. Mealtimes and bedtimes are like my worst nightmare at the minute."

Another said: "She has just screamed non stop for 10 minutes. She had a full bottle and clean nappy. Literally not even half an hour and she is a psycho."




All that was before they had been allowed to officially adopt the child, yet they still passed...WTF

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Some people dont realise just how testing a crying baby can be. Some mothers snap and hurt thwir children. This guy and his husband will have gone through very stringent checks and procedures before being approved to adopt but nothing will ever prepare you for those first few sleep deprived months. I am in no way condoning what he has done....it is sick but I cant see that saying they have been though the adoption process to prove they could is in any way justified. Poor little girl....terrible start and terrible end to life

I think the fact that it happened more than once suggests otherwise. There is a Hugh difference between ‘snapping’ and torturing and brutally murdering a defenceless toddler. You walk away, you don’t act on your frustrations, he was hardly a naive teenager.

[DemolitionRed]

The most likely scenario is, they were both deemed suitable to adopt. They both jumped through all the rigorous hoops to finalize that adoption and they both very much looked forward to having a child of their own.

Blood parents are known to hurt and even kill their children. In most circumstances of parental abuse, it was never planned or even considered, but something that started to happen soon or long after that child's birth. I doubt this was premeditated but something that happened in the heat of the moment.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The most likely scenario is, they were both deemed suitable to adopt. They both jumped through all the rigorous hoops to finalize that adoption and they both very much looked forward to having a child of their own.

Blood parents are known to hurt and even kill their children. In most circumstances of parental abuse, it was never planned or even considered, but something that started to happen soon or long after that child's birth. I doubt this was premeditated but something that happened in the heat of the moment.

Oh that’s alright then. He just killed the child in the heat of the moment. Poor man, how he must have suffered. Perhaps he should be given another child as it may not have been premeditated. God forbid.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh that’s alright then. He just killed the child in the heat of the moment. Poor man, how he must have suffered. Perhaps he should be given another child as it may not have been premeditated. God forbid.

She didn't say that fgs. The point is when a baby is killed like this by shaking, its usually a heat of the moment angry reaction to the baby crying etc, where a parent/nanny whatever just loses it, he's still a **** though

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She didn't say that fgs. The point is when a baby is killed like this by shaking, its usually a heat of the moment angry reaction to the baby crying etc, where a parent/nanny whatever just loses it, he's still a **** though

HE had hurt the child before and referred to her as ‘satan’ and the ‘devil’ so not exactly spur of the moment.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

HE had hurt the child before and referred to her as ‘satan’ and the ‘devil’ so not exactly spur of the moment.

Not exactly damning evidence that his crimes were entirely pre planned.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

HE had hurt the child before and referred to her as ‘satan’ and the ‘devil’ so not exactly spur of the moment.

That still doesn't make what you said about DRs post right. You pretty much implied because she thought that it wasn't pre meditated that she had sympathy for a man who killed a baby, that's quite low imo