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Formula 1 grid girls have been told to leave motor sports, but they're making one last stand on social media.

Just a few days after the Professional Darts Corporation banned its walk-on girls, Formula 1 followed the same path by banning the use of promo models, commonly called grid girls, commencing with the start of the 2018 FIA Formula 1 World Championship season.

The role of grid girls is to conduct promotional tasks on behalf of blue chip sponsors. They wear clothing bearing the name of the sponsor, interact with the crowd, and carry driver name boards on the grid.

In a short statement on the Formula 1 website on Wednesday, commercial operations director Sean Bratches said the custom of using grid girls "does not resonate with [the] brand values [of F1] and clearly is at odds with modern day societal norms."

"We don’t believe the practice is appropriate or relevant to Formula 1 and its fans, old and new, across the world," he added.

Now, the women who have been left out of work as a result are fighting back on social media.

Rebecca Cooper, a five time F1 grid girl, said on Twitter that it is "ridiculous that women who say they are 'fighting for women's rights' are saying what others should and shouldn't do, stopping us from doing a job we love and are proud to do. [It is] political correctness gone mad."

Cooper also implied that grid girls have been misrepresented and put together a photograph collage to highlight that women who work in her trade are not "scantily clad furniture" and that the outfits are more modest.

For Michelle Westby, working as a promotional model in motorsports led to a successful career as a stunt driver and a drift racing driver.

On Facebook, Westby said:

"If it wasn't for grid work / promotional modelling, I wouldn't be where I am now in a 'male dominated' sport and job as a stunt driver and drift competition driver, inspiring and influencing females into this 'intimidating male environment.' I get girls messaging me all the time saying how I inspire them and made them want to get into racing and drifting when they didn't think they would be accepted… What people don't realise, is that the girls have knowledge of the products and teams they are promotion — that's part of the job. We get a brief on the uniform but it's up to us if we feel comfortable in it. We are more clothed than what teenagers wear down the supermarkets. I'm now retired but to think girls have lost a lot of important income because feminists think they know best, when they really haven't got a clue, is frustrating."

The Formula 1 season begins on March 26.
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I think it's ridiculous. It's entirely up to the woman whether she pursues a job being a grid girl.

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It's quite dumb, they're essentially just cheerleaders for branding, they could just look at adding men to the practice if they are worried about being criticised for sexism or something.

Not a good enough reason to sack a bunch of people for.
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As a woman I find it annoying and belittling and **** all to do with the sport, might not be so bad if they had both sexes in there but right now it's just more women playing the ornament role
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Was going to make a thread on this Cal

Having listened to both sides of the argument I think it's the woman's choice, apparently they do a lot behind the scenes as well and many of them are educated to degree level, no one should dictate who can do nor not do a job
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Having listened to both sides of the argument I think it's the woman's choice, apparently they do a lot behind the scenes as well and many of them are educated to degree level, no one should dictate who can do nor not do a job
Exactly. These are usually very driven girls who are extremely savvy in terms of business and money etc. It's such a shame they've had to lose their jobs because outside parties have campaigned for it as 'feminists'. What is feminist about making a load of successful women unemployed?
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Exactly. These are usually very driven girls who are extremely savvy in terms of business and money etc. It's such a shame they've had to lose their jobs because outside parties have campaigned for it as 'feminists'. What is feminist about making a load of successful women unemployed?
I think its more about stopping women being seen as pieces of meat, tbh. And if we are honest, thats what these girls were to most viewers. Just some thing pretty to look at.

I can see a lot of men being up in arms about this and trying to make out its because they are concerned that these women have no job now, when its really they are pissed that they cannot perv anymore. (Not saying thats what you are worried about btw...but so many men have sudden apparently feminist views when stuff like this happens )

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I think its more about stopping women being seen as pieces of meat, tbh. And if we are honest, thats what these girls were to most viewers. Just some thing pretty to look at.

I can see a lot of men being up in arms about this and trying to make out its because they are concerned that these women have no job now, when its really they are pissed that they cannot perv anymore. (Not saying thats what you are worried about btw...but so many men have sudden apparently feminist views when stuff like this happens )
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I think its more about stopping women being seen as pieces of meat, tbh. And if we are honest, thats what these girls were to most viewers. Just some thing pretty to look at.

I can see a lot of men being up in arms about this and trying to make out its because they are concerned that these women have no job now, when its really they are pissed that they cannot perv anymore. (Not saying thats what you are worried about btw...but so many men have sudden apparently feminist views when stuff like this happens )
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I think its more about stopping women being seen as pieces of meat, tbh. And if we are honest, thats what these girls were to most viewers. Just some thing pretty to look at.

I can see a lot of men being up in arms about this and trying to make out its because they are concerned that these women have no job now, when its really they are pissed that they cannot perv anymore. (Not saying thats what you are worried about btw...but so many men have sudden apparently feminist views when stuff like this happens )
But the women go into it willingly, if men want to see them as a piece of meat that's not the women's issue
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Having listened to both sides of the argument I think it's the woman's choice, apparently they do a lot behind the scenes as well and many of them are educated to degree level, no one should dictate who can do nor not do a job
Think we're going backwards , if the women were being disrespected and dressed with their bits showing then I could understand but that's not the case.

Once again the crazy miserable people are making a fuss over nothing, all these girls have lost their jobs thanks to all the pressure and because of stupid complaints .

There was even a grid girl on the morning show the other day who said if she wasn't in the F1 world she would never of learnt how to be a race driver stunt person. It's difficult to get into that job unless you have a stepping stone .

Many of these grid girls need the job financially and they probably want to do other stuff but need this to open the door for them .
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Think we're going backwards , if the women were being disrespected and dressed with their bits showing then I could understand but that's not the case.

Once again the crazy miserable people are making a fuss over nothing, all these girls have lost their jobs thanks to all the pressure and because of stupid complaints .

There was even a grid girl on the morning show the other day who said if she wasn't in the F1 world she would never of learnt how to be a race driver stunt person. It's difficult to get into that job unless you have a stepping stone .

Many of these grid girls need the job financially and they probably want to do other stuff but need this to open the door for them .
They haven't lost their jobs, they've lost a once a year gig.

I think having kids there like they do with soccer is a great idea
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I think having kids there like they do with soccer is a great idea
I heard this morning the kids are going to be mainly boys
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I think having kids there like they do with soccer is a great idea
But plenty of those girls need the money and they actually enjoy their job , it's actually more work than people give them credit for .

If there was something sleazy and dodgy going on with the grid girls then fair enough, but that's not it . And it's the women's choice to be a grid girl ,It's also a misrepresentation to assume they're all dressed in bikini's or something

I wonder if people find it sexiest when male models are involved in events .

If they had grid kids people would say it's unsafe or they'd probably just wouldn't think it would work ,and they'd want to wrap them up in cotton wool .

But kids are involved in football so who knows .
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Apparently they have tried to recruit men as card carriers in boxing and no one is interested!
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I have to agree with this tbh.
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It's basically males making females redundant, they aren't utilising them elsewhere, they are now out of work
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Women draining men of cash just to drool over a natural naked body is kind of an iconic concept though.
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