[Vanessa]

But has a problem with Ryan doing the same thing

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But has a problem with Ryan doing the same thing

So just because your partner touches your genitials makes it acceptable for anyone to touch them at leisure?

[joeysteele]

Indeed.
She's pathetic.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Indeed.
She's pathetic.

Victim shaming is just as pathetic...

[Vanessa]

Clearly she thinks it's ok if you fancy them

[Vanessa]

Roxanne isn't a victim. She manipulated the situation to try and get Ryan out. Getting rid of the competition. She's so silly she can't even see that the real competition is Kristy.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Clearly she thinks it's ok if you fancy them

It’s normal for people to set their own boundaries... The criteria is irrelevant...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

It’s normal for people to set their own boundaries... The criteria is irrelevant...

It's the same thing.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Roxanne isn't a victim. She manipulated the situation to try and get Ryan out. Getting rid of the competition. She's so silly she can't even see that the real competition is Kristy.

I fail to see how she is “manipulating” the situation... It’s also not as if she just picked Ryan at random... There is video proof that he came at her in a manner that made her uncomfortable...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

I fail to see how she is “manipulating” the situation... It’s also not as if she just picked Ryan at random... There is video proof that he came at her in a manner that made her uncomfortable...

But he barely made contact and she was clutching her other side. Ryan was nowhere near it.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's the same thing.

As I said the criteria doesn’t matter... Just because it’s welcomed behaviour from one person doesn’t make it welcomed from everyone... It’s like saying touching someone’s genitials at random is ok just because it’s welcomed from someone else...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

As I said the criteria doesn’t matter... Just because it’s welcomed behaviour from one person doesn’t make it welcomed from everyone... It’s like saying touching someone’s genitials at random is ok just because it’s welcomed from someone else...

It's not the same thing and you know it. She's picking and choosing who to discriminate against.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But he barely made contact and she was clutching her other side. Ryan was nowhere near it.

You clearly don’t understand the concept of consent... It doesn’t matter whether he “made contact” or not... The behaviour was still unwelcomed...

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kingston

So just because your partner touches your genitials makes it acceptable for anyone to touch them at leisure?

What?Who touched her genitals?

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by kingston

As I said the criteria doesn’t matter... Just because it’s welcomed behaviour from one person doesn’t make it welcomed from everyone... It’s like saying touching someone’s genitials at random is ok just because it’s welcomed from someone else...

Legitimately curious, how do you think big brother should’ve handeled this ordeal?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

You clearly don’t understand the concept of consent... It doesn’t matter whether he “made contact” or not... The behaviour was still unwelcomed...

And yet its very welcomed when Ben does it. I get it.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's not the same thing and you know it. She's picking and choosing who to discriminate against.

It is the same thing and yes I know it... Everyone is entitled to set their own personal boundaries...

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Legitimately curious, how do you think big brother should’ve handeled this ordeal?

Exactly how they’ve handled it...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

It is the same thing and yes I know it... Everyone is entitled to set their own personal boundaries...

She playfights with the other lads. But when Ryan does it, suddenly its not ok.

[Vanessa]

Even DS is on Ryan's side and they don't even like him.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

And yet its very welcomed when Ben does it. I get it.

Again that fact that she is comfortable with Ben is irrellevent... Just because behaviour is welcomed by one person does not make it welcomed by everyone...

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She playfights with the other lads. But when Ryan does it, suddenly its not ok.

Yes it’s called personal boundaries and it’s normal for people to set them...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

Yes it’s called personal boundaries and it’s normal for people to set them...

It's called double standards.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's called double standards.

Again back to the example I’ve been giving is it a double standard that a person allows a sexual partner to touch them in a sexual manner and not others?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

Again back to the example I’ve been giving is it a double standard that a person allows a sexual partner to touch them in a sexual manner and not others?

It wasn't a sexual touch.