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Old 29-10-2009, 09:38 AM #1
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Default Alcohol and cigarettes are more harmful than Ecstasy and LSD, says drugs tsar

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I guess that any paramedic would probably agree?
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No room for debate, really. And I am not a fan of Ecstasy at all. But most dangers come from the fact that most of the time, E is not E. Those herbal BZP pills they had on the market were worse than real E.

As for LSD, how can we justify military budgets when thousands of people are lying in fields going ''my god ......... I love everything.''
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alcohol is a very dangerous legal drug but i doubt many teenagers see it as such
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"As for LSD, how can we justify military budgets when thousands of people are lying in fields going ''my god ......... I love everything.''

I was the military that developed LSD. **** you enemy up and they are easier to kill.
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"As for LSD, how can we justify military budgets when thousands of people are lying in fields going ''my god ......... I love everything.''

I was the military that developed LSD. **** you enemy up and they are easier to kill.
They did tests on it yeah but it was synthesized by complete accident by Albert Hoffman.
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And then developed by the military.
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give me some lsd Right now
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I am just being a pedant. Take no notice of me.
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He is right but the problem with his irresposibe statement is it makes drugs look like a good alternative by those dumb enough to want them....

Latest new is he has been sacked and rightly so......
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For me it depends how much you have.

Have 4 pints im sure im doing less harm than if i take e or lsd...
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the old e's were wonky. half and you were away for hours (early 90's) now they last 20 mins
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I guess that any paramedic would probably agree?
Smoking - in the long-term - is equally as harmful.

Alcohol can be equally harmful if abused.

But it is just a case of wishful thinking to say that they are more harmful - than LSD or ecstasy thus implying that they are not particularly harmful.

Of course they are - on both mental and physical health.
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Professor David Nutt wasn't expressing a half-baked opinion, he was reporting the findings of scientific tests carried out by him and other professionals. The government has now sacked him because his clinical findings clashed with their opinions. So... even when the scientific evidence is there, the government can ignore it and imagine they still knows best.
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