[fingers]

It is a manufactured 50 minute daily show designed to attract casual viewers with scenes of naked showering and bits and pieces of racy dialogue but totally without any substance.

[GypsyGoth]

Are you saying the tv guide is wrong?

[Jake.]

We know you dislike it but thanks for reminding us

[iRyan]

No1curr

[LaLaLand]

Thanks for that.

[Patrick]

Oh there's always ******ing one.

Just leave, just actually turn off and stop it - because I actually cba with people like you bringing the whole forum down for a second series in a row, it's great okay?

It's better than BB10 and BB11 - and that's that.

And it's amazing how everyone who moaned about CBB8 has now joined me and the other members on the good side, who can appreciate the new era of Big Brother - but of course we still have people like you creating threads trying to bring the mood down.

You're in the minority now, I'm open to people having opinions and that, but it's seriously getting beyond a joke now, this is meant to be a BB Forum for fans - and it seems like it's over run by haters, and THAT turns new members away - just thought Admins should take a little note of that.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Are you saying the tv guide is wrong?

It's not as fly on the wall as it used to be but perhaps it needed freshening up. Time will tell really.

[Tony1111]

I enjoyed it tonight it is more along the lines of BB6/7 so far.

[Doogle]

No one cares, we're enjoying it for what it is. It's not gonna be unedited and we will not get LF even though a lot of us do want it, but even so the series will be great for what it is now either don't watch or get used to the changes like the rest of us.

[Marsh.]

Without any substance?

Big Brother hasn't had a "serious undertone" since series 1.

[fingers]

How sad is it that some people cannot accept that others have a viewpoint , even though it is not theirs?
Dictators through the ages have stifled ANY critiscm that did not fit with their beliefs.

[Tony1111]

Big Brother is at it's best when it's trash tv. This is definatley looks like it is going to be one.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by fingers

It is a manufactured 50 minute daily show designed to attract casual viewers with scenes of naked showering and bits and pieces of racy dialogue but totally without any substance.

That's what Big Brother's been for years and years and years and years now you nutbar. Believe it or not the vast majority of the 3-5 million people who tuned in didn't do so to follow a deeply engrossing psychological drama. I see the value in Big Brother as that type of show but I realize I'm in the minority. Most people don't sit around watching the feed all night charting the housemates development. They just want something stupid to watch for an hour.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Stu

They just want something stupid to watch for an hour.

Exactly what Ch 5 is now delivering.

[IheartBB]

To be fair, this is how Channel 4 initially pulled in the viewers way back in 2000. And like BB1, it won't last the entire series, just long enough for viewers to get familar with the housemates.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by fingers

Exactly what Ch 5 is now delivering.

Carrying on from the tradition forged by Channel 4.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Stu

Carrying on from the tradition forged by Channel 4.

Doesn't make it any more acceptable.

[starry]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Oh there's always ******ing one.

Just leave, just actually turn off and stop it - because I actually cba with people like you bringing the whole forum down for a second series in a row, it's great okay?

It's better than BB10 and BB11 - and that's that.

And it's amazing how everyone who moaned about CBB8 has now joined me and the other members on the good side, who can appreciate the new era of Big Brother - but of course we still have people like you creating threads trying to bring the mood down.

You're in the minority now, I'm open to people having opinions and that, but it's seriously getting beyond a joke now, this is meant to be a BB Forum for fans - and it seems like it's over run by haters, and THAT turns new members away - just thought Admins should take a little note of that.

No, I think many people don't like the cheapening of the show. Yes the show has had vacuous HMs before, particularly in series 7 to 9. But 10 and 11 were better and a return to TV that was less trashy.

[InOne]

Threads like this are annoying, I'd rather people just make them about the actual show

[alexonthewall]

I'm really enjoying the series so far..

[Bruvva]

This series is really good so far. Much better than what I was expecting.

[Kazakh]

It seems many on the forum are simply those who wish to Post "Whooo X, Y , Z to WIN!!!!!" types, which, one guesses, is fine. I saw BB close up,last year and left with the distinct impression that anyone with an IQ higher than 70 was at a disadvantage. What that tells you about UK society may or may not bear examining.

[starry]

Originally Posted by Tony1111

Big Brother is at it's best when it's trash tv.

I absolutely disagree with this. The last two years were definitely less trashy, if we forget the stupid tasks they had outside for the crowd last year anyway. But now they have gone to the kind of people they had at the start of the 7th or 8th series and it's actually going backwards and not forwards.

[Mitnick]

I like it. You don't want mature people that have already lived life and are careful. Pam Anderson does put a damper on the house because she is older and appears as a mother figure.
The young people have the Potential to be stupid and provide interesting viewing. They act more like caged rats.