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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-Facebook.html What a vile, horrible man. I hope this scum bag has karma come hit him in the face.
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R.I.P. Kerry
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That's just sick!
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I agree that he's completely sick and pathetic, but I don't think you should be jailed for saying things. Unless he made threats, there was nothing obligating the families and grieving friends of these teenagers to read his pathetic waffle - and it's just not a punishable offence IMO. You could feasibly jail Frankie Boyle for crap like this.
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As vile as he is, I don't think anyone should ever be jailed for words or expression. The man has every right to dishonor any person he likes. And every other person has the right to condemn him.
The words we least want to hear are evidence of the most free speech.
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Don't be afraid to be weak. Last edited by lostalex; 14-09-2011 at 08:37 AM. |
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This is an example of people not taking accounatability for their own stupidity, so instead find a nearest scapegoat. This man harmed no one by his actions because he did not act, he only spoke. He held no office, or any special position of power. The man wrote words, and anyone who listened to him did so of their own free will.
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Don't be afraid to be weak. Last edited by lostalex; 14-09-2011 at 08:41 AM. |
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Where does it say that? :/
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That's really disgusting. I agree with you Ben, I believe the punishment is justified. I don't believe it's free speech, I believe it's harassment. Similar to if someone was sending a person hate mail or making disgusting phone calls.
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The Internet has been like the Wild West... lawless and unmoderated. I'm glad that he's been jailed, and let that be a warning to everyone who thinks "free speech" means allowing every half-baked thought that enters your head tumble out into a public forum without employing the clutch of tact.
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Freedom of speech is freedom of speech no matter how much I disagree with what's been written. Although I think this is a disgusting act, he should have only been banned from social networking (for life) as opposed to wasting yet another space in jail when the govt is already complaining of having way overpopulated prisons.
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I'm with Shaun and Lostalex, the man's clearly a twisted ***** but we shouldn't waste money jailing him since no matter how you cut it at the end of the day it's free speech. I agree with the order to ban him from social networks but a prison sentence is too much. Giving out custodial sentences for things like this is a very slippery slope.
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That is awful, and the fact that this man's actions led to somebodies suicide completely warrants jail. He's caused pain and heartache, and unless somebody can think of a better way of punishing him properly and ridding him from society then I say we stick to our current system. I mean I doubt he's been jailed just because he said those words, he's been to court and it's gone through the proper procedure and it's come out with the best result, good riddance.
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... if it happened to any of us TiBB members then you'd want him jailed or, even more extreme, dead. Pain is pain.
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It's fine to go upto a disabled wheelchair bound person, give them **** and mock them by saying, "hey dude, if you don't like it....WALK away ya crippled spastic". That's seems to be what you are saying.... free speech and all that? At what point do you think 'far' is 'too far'.... or don't you? *Serious note: the above are only examples of what people DO put up with in real life, and should not be taken as my personal opinion, by anyone reading* |
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It seems some people have latched on the the "Freedom of Speech" thing and imagine that it means you can say anything you want, at any time and to anyone. It doesn't. |
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18 weeks, he will serve less than half that, whats the point on jailing him?
A Community payback order with some form of counselling and making amends in some way to his victims would probably do this saddo more good. Its a case of Justice being seen to be done. He will come out from prison not having learnt from his mistakes, probably be back on social networking sites within hours of his release. Last edited by Shasown; 14-09-2011 at 11:37 AM. |
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I never said he shouldn't be punished, just that we shouldn't waste the resources on jailing him. Jailing people for what essentially is free speech is a bit different and a lot more dangerous then banning them from Facebook.
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I can't imagine where people are getting the idea that mocking someone who is dead, causing people untold grief and anxiety is that same thing as free speech? Is it not! |
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