[arista]

Youtube video

Enlarge this to full screen
Its the Political Ad in the Republican party clash
but its gone well past the others and put Barack in the Gutter.


This is like a Movie
Fast Clever Images.



Feel The Force.

[Cromwell1900]

Style over Content appealing to the Heart's of America rather than the Brains. May be that Party think Americans are all Brainless, or at least over-emotionally driven

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Style over Content appealing to the Heart's of America rather than the Brains. May be that Party think Americans are all Brainless, or at least over-emotionally driven

For a Ad for the Republican race
its has some power.


Not just the brainless as many clever yanks
have lost jobs and homes under Barack.

[Cromwell1900]

I'd of thought most Americans we're bright enough to realize that they lost there jobs because of a recession. Recessions are seeded five, ten, fifteen years since.

Not knowing an awful lot on American Politics, i have to see it in likeness to Cameron being blamed for the errors of Brown when he was the Chancellor and allowed the Banks so much freedom, as he believed that markets could govern themselves.

Back to the add though, it's truly a sign of the times when an ad to elect a President, can contain not one single Policy for you to judge them by. It will be interesting to see if the Democrats, tit for tat to prompt the kind of m.a.d(mutually assured Destruction) debate that is becoming the way of Politics. Perhaps they could find some pictures which show Bush's terms in office to malign the Republic Party.

Your right it's a powerful ad, but has it got any credibility if you want to make a Judgement on the Republic Parties ability to Govern, or the Democratic Parties ability?

No.

[arista]

Yes this was debated and shown today
on the BBC Daily Politics.
Pointing out no new policy - but big images.


The Sirens are on for the first bit with Barack
and Real NBC Business news clips
then its better sounds
the Horse and Stern Faces looking to a New President
The Sounds and fast images make this Mini (1min 45seconds) Movie
a winner.

Hell of a Movie

[Cromwell1900]

It's not a winner at all it's a pile of stinking crap, destined for the dustbin of Humanity, reserved only for the disgusted eyes of 22nd Century, History Students, studying the 21st Century and where did it all go wrong.

If you want to be controlled by your emotions go ahead but i like a bit of Politics with my Politics.

[arista]

"Strange use of the word Race, i'm drawn to an inescapable assumption do you dislike Obama for more than his Politics? "

Thats what they call it out there a Race to Win.


Barack is OK but running a Nation
and getting downgraded effects trade
He is a Great Speaker - but in power he is not good for America.


Its nothing at all to do with color.
(thats the yanks way of spelling color)

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by arista

"Strange use of the word Race, i'm drawn to an inescapable assumption do you dislike Obama for more than his Politics? "

Thats what they call it out there a Race to Win.


Barack is OK but running a Nation
and getting downgraded effects trade
He is a Great Speaker - but in power he is not good for America.


Its nothing at all to do with color.
(thats the yanks way of spelling color)

Yep apologees, realized my error on a re-read of your post, hence the "editing reason"

I can't really comment on the Political effectiveness of Obama to an American. But as an outsider he has lifted, i think most people's respect for the Country after Bush's reign was marked with criticism both of the Man and his decisions, and also his relationships with the Businessmen seen as complicit in the downfall of the American economy.

I judge him and America as follows

A He's not Bush.
B He's Black (i.e America is not as Racist and/or un-democratic as once i believed)
C He speaks with a language void of rhetoric.

Maybe the true test of the man can be found, when he does or does not release a Political Movie like the one in your Post. If i saw that coming from Obama/Democrats then it's time to rethink.

[arista]

Anyone was better
that Bush.


But Barack has still murdered public in error in Pakistan
with the Evil Drone Air Bombers.
That is so Dumb.
Making more Anger against America

[lostalex]

I would never ever vote for a republican EVER.

That being said, i really like this ad. It's really well done, the music is great, and the way they showed all the empty businesses and dead towns and then had Obama saying "I'M JUST GETTING STARTED!" was very impactful..

Also i think it's clever that they are trying to rebrand the famous "O" for Obama, as a zero instead of an O, and calling him president zero. It's just very clever.

The ending was very inspiring.

That all being said, I'd never ever vote for a republican, and this ad isn't really for people like me, it's for the majority of people who are undecided, and don't have a strong allegience to any particular party.

It's a good ad.

[arista]

"That being said, i really like this ad. It's really well done, the music is great, and the way they showed all the empty businesses and dead towns and then had Obama saying "I'M JUST GETTING STARTED!" was very impactful.."


Yes the Sirens for Barack
Danger Zone.

Then the Ending and Horse,
breaking into a better America

[letmein]

Rick Perry is a religions zealot. BTW, Obama is beloved by the world, so I don't know what anger you're speaking of. He got Osama bin Laden, so I guess al Qaeda probably hates him.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by letmein

Rick Perry is a religions zealot. BTW, Obama is beloved by the world, so I don't know what anger you're speaking of. He got Osama bin Laden, so I guess al Qaeda probably hates him.

He's beloved by the world? I guess you don't read eigther the Daily Mail comments section, or the Guardian comments section. When both the Daily Mail readers AND the Guardian readers hate the same person... you know it is an unliked person.

Both the Left AND the Right hate him. For different reasons granted, but still.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by arista

"That being said, i really like this ad. It's really well done, the music is great, and the way they showed all the empty businesses and dead towns and then had Obama saying "I'M JUST GETTING STARTED!" was very impactful.."


Yes the Sirens for Barack
Danger Zone.

Then the Ending and Horse,
breaking into a better America

Can't help but think i'm missing the point though Arista, Lostalex are you judging this video in a Cinematic light, or as a Political Advert

It never occurred to me to view the Film in a purely Cinematic way tbh. The good Cinematography supports the bad message and the whole thing leaves me cold.

[MTVN]

Rick Perry sounds like a tool, was reading today that he apparently hunts at some place called "niggerhead" and brought friends and supporters there with him. He claimed he had the name painted over in the early 80's but it was still there in recent years and can still be faintly seen today

[Roy Mars III]

He has a really good set of hair, he'll probably be the republican nominee.

[Cromwell1900]

Dont you just hate contradicting yourself

Well i thought i'd have a read up on this guy, as it seems he may be a contender, and, i read a few articles about the hunting camp, and i thought hmm a lot of crap gets thrown around at election time, so who knows.

Then i read how he was the Governor of Texas just like Bush was and a compromise should not be drawn, all pretty much logical, unemotional responses as politics should be seen i think.

Then i saw this picture and thought OOPH! I don't like this guy.


http://opinion.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8...1937aa3970b-pi

I can't think of a better illustration of why Hollywood and Politics should not mix

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Can't help but think i'm missing the point though Arista, Lostalex are you judging this video in a Cinematic light, or as a Political Advert

It never occurred to me to view the Film in a purely Cinematic way tbh. The good Cinematography supports the bad message and the whole thing leaves me cold.

Sure

But the Ending is the Up Lift.


America now is worse than the UK
Barack can not do the job well enough
sure he can speak for hours - very well,
but his Plans in Action are all destroying the USA.

[MTVN]

Watching the Republican Debate now, they're all incredibly irritating, just repeating the usual Right-Wing NeoCon rhetoric, the only ones which seem to offer any coherent and rational policies are Ron Paul and Mitt Romney but still I don't think either would make an particularly good candidate

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Watching the Republican Debate now, they're all incredibly irritating, just repeating the usual Right-Wing NeoCon rhetoric, the only ones which seem to offer any coherent and rational policies are Ron Paul and Mitt Romney but still I don't think either would make an particularly good candidate

Atleast the Right wing has a debate. Where is the oposition for Obama in his own party? Why is the left wing just backing Obama, and not giving the left wing of America any choice at all?

I'd never vote for republicans or any right wing candidate, but i am disgusted that there is not opposition to Obama in the left wing. The left is given no choices at all, i'm absolutely disgusted by the way Obama has performed for the last 4 years, he's been more than a disappointment., just as bad as Bush, and the American left is given no true opposition to Obama whatsoever.

This will probably be the first time i don't vote. I would never vote for the right, but i can't bring myself to vote for Obama eigther. I will abstain probably.

[MTVN]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15669242

[arista]

Yes he was tired

[letmein]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Atleast the Right wing has a debate. Where is the oposition for Obama in his own party? Why is the left wing just backing Obama, and not giving the left wing of America any choice at all?

I'd never vote for republicans or any right wing candidate, but i am disgusted that there is not opposition to Obama in the left wing. The left is given no choices at all, i'm absolutely disgusted by the way Obama has performed for the last 4 years, he's been more than a disappointment., just as bad as Bush, and the American left is given no true opposition to Obama whatsoever.

This will probably be the first time i don't vote. I would never vote for the right, but i can't bring myself to vote for Obama eigther. I will abstain probably.

Wait a minute. Hold up! The reason why they continue to schedule these debates, is because it's a sideshow and gets ratings. The networks are doing this. Everyone knows this. It's comedy material.

The current sitting President of a Party is almost never opposed. It was done once in 1980 with Jimmy Carter, and look what happened.

What exactly is your problem with Obama? You didn't get a pony? Obama is doing the best that he can with the nutcase Republicans in charge of the House. The legislation coming out of that place, is frightening! There are many things I don't agree with Obama on, but trust me, he's done a million things right. His problem is continuing Right wing policies.

If you don't vote, don't come crying when the Right's nut case, worse than Bush, gets into power. You are cutting off your nose to spite your face. Obama is the only roadblock these clowns have, and stops them from passing their extremist agenda.

The Right has no candidate anyway. Obama is going to win regardless.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Watching the Republican Debate now, they're all incredibly irritating, just repeating the usual Right-Wing NeoCon rhetoric, the only ones which seem to offer any coherent and rational policies are Ron Paul and Mitt Romney but still I don't think either would make an particularly good candidate

Mitt Romney is the biggest f-up who ever f-upped! That man speaks out of both sides of his face, and sank his state's economy into the ground. The Mormon thing is just one of a million problems with him.

Ron Paul is too extreme.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure

But the Ending is the Up Lift.


America now is worse than the UK
Barack can not do the job well enough
sure he can speak for hours - very well,
but his Plans in Action are all destroying the USA.

Arista, stick to critiquing your own countries policies. Obama is the best President we've had since Clinton, warts and all. The UK is sinking into the ground. Republicans are why the US is facing so many obstacles, and they're keen on destroying what's left. Bush sure did leave a legacy, a long with Reagan with his deregulation, trickle down crap, and arming the Taliban.