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Old 26-10-2015, 10:26 AM #1
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'Processed meats - such as bacon, sausages and ham - do cause cancer, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).
Its report said 50g of processed meat a day - less than two slices of bacon - increased the chance of developing colorectal cancer by 18%.
Meanwhile, it said red meats were "probably carcinogenic" but there was limited evidence.
But the WHO said meat did also have health benefits.
Processed meat is meat that has been modified to increase its shelf-life or alter its taste - such as by smoking, curing or adding salt or preservatives.
It is these additions which could be increasing the risk of cancer.
"For an individual, the risk of developing colorectal (bowel) cancer because of their consumption of processed meat remains small, but this risk increases with the amount of meat consumed," Dr Kurt Straif from the WHO said.'

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'Bacon, ham and sausages rank alongside cigarettes as a major cause of cancer, the World Health Organisation has said, placing cured and processed meats in the same category as asbestos, alcohol, arsenic and tobacco.

The report from the WHO’s cancer arm, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, says there is enough evidence to rank processed meats as group 1 carcinogens, because of a causal link with bowel cancer. It places red meat in group 2A, as “probably carcinogenic to humans”. Eating red meat is also linked to pancreatic and prostate cancer, the IARC says.

The guidelines, to be published on Monday, bring the UN’s position in line with the World Cancer Research Fund (WCRF), which says there is convincing evidence that processed meat can cause bowel cancer.

But Dr Jill Jenkins, a GP and member of the Meat Advisory Panel, an industry-sponsored body, said she would not be advising her patients to stop eating meat, though she did recommend caution over highly processed meat products.'

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So now ham gives you cancer. Ham? ffs. I think I'm just going to risk it tbh, it's all getting a bit too much. I'd rather take the risk than live my life eating nothing but lettuce. Oh wait... lettuce is probably covered in all sorts of carcinogenic pesticides, too...
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So now ham gives you cancer. Ham? ffs. I think I'm just going to risk it tbh, it's all getting a bit too much. I'd rather take the risk than live my life eating nothing but lettuce. Oh wait... lettuce is probably covered in all sorts of carcinogenic pesticides, too...
it's getting ridiculous now, our bodies are being fried by ingesting diesel fumes and being subjected to wifi signals at any rate, not to mention the dangers of dairy
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So now ham gives you cancer. Ham? ffs. I think I'm just going to risk it tbh, it's all getting a bit too much. I'd rather take the risk than live my life eating nothing but lettuce. Oh wait... lettuce is probably covered in all sorts of carcinogenic pesticides, too...
Ah ha - So true. In another month there will be another 'scientific' report stating how BENEFICIAL eating ton's of red meat per day is for our health. I'll keep on eating my sausages and let others swallow the baloney.
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Not again.

Eat Veg with it
and Walk more.


We need Iron
from Liver and Bacon meals etc
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Thank you Will, you are most kind. You might not know this, but I am a Vegan - Spock is my cousin.
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Thank you Will, you are most kind. You might not know this, but I am a Vegan - Spock is my cousin.
I would consider turning a vegan as I rarely eat meat or anything from animals.

But can you get vegan cheese?

If so then I'm turning.
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Not my aunt though... She was a Vegan. Still got Cancer.

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I know that there will be skepticism and cries of scaremongering but does anyone think that the unregulated imports of 'mystery meats,' the feed and the processing has an impact on food quality that has health implications for humans?
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I know that there will be skepticism and cries of scaremongering but does anyone think that the unregulated imports of 'mystery meats,' the feed and the processing has an impact on food quality that has health implications for humans?
Definitely. If people knew the **** that goes into Donna Kebab meat they would never eat one again. All processed meat products are 'iffy'.
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SkyNewsHD was at a Fry Up live
most people said that do not have it every day

The Food looked Top Notch

Even doing a food in a batch bread
which had Duck Eggs Fried
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I know that there will be skepticism and cries of scaremongering but does anyone think that the unregulated imports of 'mystery meats,' the feed and the processing has an impact on food quality that has health implications for humans?

Yeah if course but unless you gro your own fruit and veg, rear your own meat and fish and bake your own bread as well as milling your own flour can you be sure what is in anything!
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Yeah if course but unless you gro your own fruit and veg, rear your own meat and fish and bake your own bread as well as milling your own flour can you be sure what is in anything!
I think that's the answer... seriously though I think food quality is the real issue if you could afford to buy at least slightly better quality food but eat less of it I feel that's the solution.
Eating lots of rubbish just pumps you full of fat, sugar, salt and additives, eating less of something of better quality might ensure you have a better chance of absorbing some goodness.
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I would consider turning a vegan as I rarely eat meat or anything from animals.

But can you get vegan cheese?

If so then I'm turning.
Long story short; yes you can get cheese.

All three of the girls in my family have milk protein allergy (wife and both daughters) and we were recently at a meeting about getting my youngest into Nursery and telling them about her dietary needs, and how she in fact LOVES cheese, and is liable to try to steal it from others if she sees it...

An assistant from the other side of the room suddenly bellowed; "YOU CAN GET CHEESE!!!" and ran over to excitedly tell us about how she had recently had been diagnosed as dairy intolerant and had, in her quest to cut it out, discovered that "Vegan Cheese" exists and is obviously dairy free.

She was seriously excited telling us about this cheese. Is dairy-intolerance and a love of cheese a common thing to go hand in hand?
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Long story short; yes you can get cheese.

All three of the girls in my family have milk protein allergy (wife and both daughters) and we were recently at a meeting about getting my youngest into Nursery and telling them about her dietary needs, and how she in fact LOVES cheese, and is liable to try to steal it from others if she sees it...

An assistant from the other side of the room suddenly bellowed; "YOU CAN GET CHEESE!!!" and ran over to excitedly tell us about how she had recently had been diagnosed as dairy intolerant and had, in her quest to cut it out, discovered that "Vegan Cheese" exists and is obviously dairy free.

She was seriously excited telling us about this cheese. Is dairy-intolerance and a love of cheese a common thing to go hand in hand?
I think it is my sister an I are gluten intolerant but over the past few months have also noticed a difference when eating dairy.
She loves milk and yogurt and me cheese, but find it really hard to tolerate.
I think Quark is ok.
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water is carcinogenic, just thought i would point that one out
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I could'nt get enough protein on a vegan diet.I eat atleast 215g protein per day due to weight training.If i wanted that much protein on a vegan diet my calories would be through the roof.
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Is this because it's all horse and dog meat?
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